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1 posted on 07/25/2020 8:16:08 AM PDT by MtnClimber
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I am interested in comments on this as there are two interesting points on opposite sides of this argument.

Erick Erickson and others are on one side and believe that President Trump should let cities live with the consequences of their choices.

Dan Bongino and others are on the opposite side and believe that law and order should be enforced and that President Trump should send federal officers to do it if the local and state governments won’t.


2 posted on 07/25/2020 8:16:19 AM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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The author is ignorant of U.S.Title codes.


3 posted on 07/25/2020 8:19:01 AM PDT by Terry L Smith
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How many federal storm-troopers were executed for murdering innocent gun owners and their families over the past 30 years or so under the orders from Democrats and RINOs?


4 posted on 07/25/2020 8:26:40 AM PDT by meadsjn
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So, why did this country engage in a civil war in the 1860’s? Thirteen states chose to secede. Lincoln killed hundreds of thousands of southerners to force federal supremacy.

Eric Erickson is full of it.


5 posted on 07/25/2020 8:27:01 AM PDT by Gnome1949
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“I want a mask mandate, ...”

The never-Trumper control-freak mind at work.


6 posted on 07/25/2020 8:29:18 AM PDT by eens (beware the errors of Russia)
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He doesn't even know what the heck he is talking about. You have border patrol, FBI, and when things get really out of control, The Insurrection Act of 1807 is a United States federal law that empowers the President of the United States to deploy U.S. military and federalized National Guard troops within the United States in particular circumstances, such as to suppress civil disorder, insurrection and rebellion.

Do your research Eric before you stick your foot in your dumb mouth.

7 posted on 07/25/2020 8:29:44 AM PDT by Robert DeLong
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If Erickson is passionately for something the President isn’t doing, it ain’t good for Trump. On a daily basis the loser twists and spins and bends over backwards trying to validate his NeverTrump stance - GOPe globalist he is.


9 posted on 07/25/2020 8:32:25 AM PDT by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51; Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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Shut up Fat Boy.

Erick the Red is a Never Trumper, devoid if sny principle. His only take on this is to emadculate our PDJT.

Federal authority to enforce Constitutional rights is clear. Governors and Mayors are notorious for trampling on the rights of citizens.

Federal authority has beeen the last resort for freedom many times since the Bell first rang.


10 posted on 07/25/2020 8:33:52 AM PDT by Macoozie (Handcuffs and Orange Jumpsuits)
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I believe the unrest in Portland, which is now the longest running protest in US history, is funded by those wishing to destabilize the rule of law, and with it, the presidency. It's being fueled and funded by our enemies.

The media is claiming the protests are peaceful, but note a riot friendly state (I think it was Minnesota) asked for federal funds to repair/replace 1500 buildings destroyed in the peaceful protests. Behind the fake news, the CIA and foreign enemies are fueling these protests which are just a front for longer plans of destabilization.

I found some real news about Portland which provide a citizen's synopsis of Portland Police Department livestreaming. (link to the website at the bottom)

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Since there's a media blackout on Portland, other than claims that helpless moms are being "gassed by shock troops", someone  has been creating synopsis and REAL NEWS to tell the rest of us what is going on. Here are some excerpts.

"The Portland Riots, in their 58th night, are the longest-running civil disturbance in United States history. About a week ago I noticed that while the mainstream media wasn’t covering the riots the Portland Police were live-tweeting and live-streaming them almost like a nightly reality program. I decided to name it Portlandia Nights and began writing a synopsis each morning – this is my eighth synopsis and the 58th episode of America’s favorite reality program. I’m not sure how much longer I’ll continue to write these because honestly, every night is the same so I’m calling this episode “Groundhog Day”."

SNIP

"The previous night new fencing had been installed around the federal buildings that proved very difficult to breach or topple. Realizing that it was unlikely they would breach the fence very quickly the protesters divided the task of attacking the fence and attacking the building into two groups. The first group began using grinders and cutters in an attempt to disassemble the fence in certain areas. The second group began throwing bags full of garbage between the fence and the federal buildings setting them on fire. They also threw rocks, bottles, and other projectiles at the building. Earlier in the day, a judge issued a temporary restraining order against the federal police preventing them from arresting the press. Interestingly lots of the protesters seemed to have joined the press soon after his ruling."

https://partisan.space/portlandia-nights-ep-58-groundhog-day/

15 posted on 07/25/2020 8:39:40 AM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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Erick Erickson has crossed over into some alternative universe. It's not just in this article but others I have read over the last few years.

He is not what he used to be. When he became a full-blown NeverTrumper, I was done with him. He is outside of my circle of commentators nowadays.

16 posted on 07/25/2020 8:43:16 AM PDT by HotHunt
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Apparently Erick Erickson is as ignorant of the insurrection act as he is about everything else. This is a Marxist revolution Erick.


17 posted on 07/25/2020 8:44:16 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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There is no police power in the federal Constitution. The police power is left to the states. …
Thanks for admitting you haven’t read the Constitution, Erickson.
18 posted on 07/25/2020 8:44:50 AM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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Dan Bongino gave a superb counterattack to idiots like Erickson on hi Thursday podcast.

Bottom line: The federal government needs no state or local permission to go anywhere to enforce federal law, including the protection of federal property.

Erickson is a phony conservative.


20 posted on 07/25/2020 9:02:38 AM PDT by Nothingburger
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Poor Erick. He can’t seem to help himself get out of his trap, but he is pretty handy about polishing the bars.

Yes, the world gets to see the madness of Portland, again, for real, in real time, and what happens when the Marx madness that is the demonrat party of today goes the distance.

Check it out: They have arrived! Welcome to their marxist hell ... how do you like it now?

Wouldn’t you like to live there, too? Boy howdy, you betcha! I know I would!

President Donald J. Trump is the only adult in that Portland conversation and the whole world gets to see that, too.

We have an election soon, EricK, and who do you think America will choose?

Someone who will continue to give us over to ideological insanity?
Or someone who can and will continue to Make America Great Again!

See? That wasn’t such a chore now was it?

22 posted on 07/25/2020 9:09:18 AM PDT by GBA (Here in the matrix, merrily, merrily, life is but a dream.)
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“There is no police power in the federal Constitution.”

Actually there is. Originally for only 3 crimes. So, Erickson is still an idiot loser.

L


23 posted on 07/25/2020 9:11:08 AM PDT by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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Erickson has been an avid anti-Trumper since 2015.

I don’t think anyone pays attention to him any more. He has absolutely no moral conviction and even less credibility.


24 posted on 07/25/2020 9:12:04 AM PDT by detch (")
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Portland Oregon = James Town


26 posted on 07/25/2020 9:21:38 AM PDT by Vaduz (women and children to be impacIQ of chimpsted the most.)
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"To the extent the President can send federal officers into Portland, Oregon, and other cities, it should be to protect federal property."
FR: Never Accept the Premise of Your Opponent’s Argument

I wish that more people would read the Constitution so they don’t have to guess what it says.

Here are the two main clauses imo that give the feds various degrees of policing power in the states.

The two clauses give the feds different powers to intervene, depending on the motives behind violence imo. Clause 4.4 limits the fed’s powers to being invited to help suppress domestic violence, gang warfare for example.

On the other hand, when you have violent political groups like desperate Democratic Party front-ends Antifa and BLM who are using their violence to effectively flip their fingers at government authority imo, “Orange Man Bad” in this case, Clause 1.8.15 does the following. It gives the feds the power to decide if violence is intended to destabilize the Union, a constitutional no-no, and intervene to suppress such violence without permission from the states if deemed necessary.

Justice Joseph Story had put it this way about that clause.

Finally, I’d be concerned about possible abuse of federal powers to suppress violence in renegade states like Washington State, Oregon, NY and others too, if anybody but Trump was president.

Corrections, insights welcome.

Send "Orange Man Bad" federal and state government desperate Democrats and RINOs home in November!

Supporting PDJT with a new patriot Congress and state government leaders that will promise to fully support his already excellent work for MAGA and stopping SARS-CoV-2 will effectively give fast-working Trump a "third term" in office imo.

27 posted on 07/25/2020 9:26:08 AM PDT by Amendment10
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Erickson is a prick. And he doesn’t know the law either. The Federal government has arrest powers when rioters attack and damage federal property or harm Federal officers. There are various laws that allow the Federal government to step in.

Erickson was a never Trumper, and when push comes to shove he is a RINO.


28 posted on 07/25/2020 9:33:18 AM PDT by JoeRender
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It is ASININE to let cities burn like this! It is like letting children with major emotional problems destroy things and themselves while innocents suffer greatly. Ultimately,WE pay for ALL of this.


31 posted on 07/25/2020 9:49:21 AM PDT by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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