Posted on 07/21/2020 12:24:42 PM PDT by nesnah
Yes...it’s the damndest thing.
I just visited with a friend, an ICU nurse who works near Baltimore. The hospital system was transporting many COVID patients from around DC to balance resources.
She described the three strikes that meant death in the ICU. Diabetes, morbid obesity, and hypertension.
Makes sense if you’re trying to turn people on the government and then some international body swoops in with the answers.
Please identify the mechanism by which macrophages, neutrophils, T-Cells, and B-Cells each become less effective over time. There isn't one, but I'm curious what your answer would be. Neutrophils only live for a few hours after maturation (which itself only takes a week). Your body produces 100,000,000,000 of them every day. They're always brand new.
So please explain the exact mechanism by which each part of the human immune system loses effectiveness. Because macrophages don't change and neutrophils don't change, and T-cells and B-cells are only altered at activation, and then don't change.
"And 88% asymptomatic was the number they got in NYC when they were testing every pregnant female they could get their mitts on. It is a solid number."
Source? Because every authoritative source and medical journal I can find says 35 - 40%:
If 80% were immune, then a disease with an R0 of 3.8 would have no one left to infect. Herd immunity for SARS-CoV-2 is around 65 - 75%. So if 80% are immune, we were at herd immunity before any of this began and nobody has become infected.
In other words, that source is a joke.
That means that while there are those who "survive" the virus who experience serious lung damage or blood clots it's highly unlikely that you'll see these things...again,if you're under 70,don't live in a nursing home,etc.
IOW,those things are a 1 in 500,000 occurrence.
Beware the ‘mask of the beast’... :-)
I can’t wait to vote AGAINST every single politician who supported a mask mandate...local, state, federal.
Because they have been lying about the data from the beginning.
However it is science that if you isolate a subject from viruses then the immune system is not able to fight them off once they are introduced. For a really big example of this please look at what happened to the American Indian populations when they were introduced to the cross over livestock viruses brought in by the Asians and Europeans.
As to the second, you can find it by looking up NYC testing of pregnant ladies.
Not sort of guesses by people who shade the facts but actual numbers.
“Show me the flu season that killed over 144,000 Americans.”
That’s 144,000 Americans who are reported to have died from Covid.
“So all those other countries killed their own citizens and shut down their own economies just to get Trump”.
Of course not. But they used the same lock down model we did. Why are their numbers better than ours now? They don’t have the CDC counting. Figures don’t lie, but liars can figure.
I know (direct report from family) a woman who died of an auto accident in Florida. She visited a nursing home before the accident. Cause of death? Covid.
He won’t believe anything from that site since it has cdc and gov in the URL.
Makes sense if you’re trying to turn people on the government and then some international body swoops in with the answers.
Seems to me if the global powers that be were powerful enough to start an international pandemic to get rid of Trump they'd also be powerful enough to prevent his election in the first place. IOW we'd be looking at President Killary right now.
Only 10% of adults hospitalized had “no known pre conditions. LOL.
Your start date is May of this year and you are focused on COVID. I smell a troll.
Two of my family members have died of Covid. I’ve known 12 more people that had it to various stages of sickness. You don’t have to be such a dick about it. I’m for opening the economy and schools fully, but people will die. Just like they’ll die from drunk drivers, cancer, accidents, and everything else.
Every disease has long term complications. There is no evidence the Chicom flu is extraordinary in that regard. We won’t know for many years if that is the case.
Our hospitals are filled with unhealthy people who make poor choices in life. Obesity, uncontrolled diabetes, substance abuse, etc. They make the same mistakes over and over. And now they are the folks along with the very elderly who are being hit hardest by the Chicom flu.
You are incorrect.
"I never brought up t cells."
You said "You immune system becomes weaker the more sterile your environment." That's an exact quote. You talked about the immune system. T-Cells and B-cells are part of the immune system. So are macrophages and neutrophils (which you ignored).
"However it is science that if you isolate a subject from viruses then the immune system is not able to fight them off once they are introduced."
Declaring that a wrong answer "is science" does not make it a right answer. There is nothing scientific about making up things and providing no evidence or even sound reasoning for wildly inaccurate claims.
"For a really big example of this please look at what happened to the American Indian populations when they were introduced to the cross over livestock viruses brought in by the Asians and Europeans."
This had nothing to do with their immune systems being weak or them being isolated. This was due to the introduction of a whole host of novel pathogens to their environment. And the diseases the Europeans brought with them had been killing Europeans for centuries. So clearly it wasn't a question of weak vs strong immune systems. Diseases like smallpox killed lots of people every year. The American Indian populations just hadn't been exposed to it before.
"As to the second, you can find it by looking up NYC testing of pregnant ladies."
I still have no idea what this refers to because after multiple requests, you haven't provided any source. So I can't comment on it because I have no idea what you're talking about. If you would like to provide a source (I've provided many), I'd be happy to look at it and discuss it.
I never said the people being hospitalized weren’t already unhealthy people. We have lots of older people and unhealthy people, both in this country and in many others. And those people are naturally going to be more susceptible to illness and more likely to wind up hospitalized. I wasn’t saying anything about the kind of people being hospitalized or why the numbers are what they are. I’m just providing the raw numbers. For every X number of infections, Y number of people are hospitalized. It’s just numbers.
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