Posted on 07/17/2020 11:10:00 AM PDT by Retain Mike
I know! He reverted to the Republican party, too!
Wallace was never a communist, but he had too many commies in his political entourage. And he would have been too much for a false “peace” to drop the atomic bombs.
It is surprising that there is almost total agreement that the bombing was necessary. Stimpson’s study claimed it might “cost us between 1.7 and 4 million casualties including 400,000 and 800,000 killed.” You can have a study that proves anything you want.
On September 20, 1945, Major General Curtis LeMay stated to the Associated Press: The atomic bomb had nothing to do with the end of the war ... The war would have been over in two weeks without the Russians coming in and without the atomic bomb.” Hoover adds: “There were present at this interview two American Generals who were engaged in action against Japan — General Barney Giles and Brigadier General Emmett O’Donnell — both of whom agreed with General LeMay.” On October 5, 1945, Admiral Chester Nimitz told the Associated Press “he was convinced that the end of the war would have been the same without the atomic bomb or the entry of the Russians into the war:” On the same day Nimitz told Congress: The atomic bomb did not end the war against Japan. The Japanese had, in fact, already sued for peace before the atomic age was announced to the world with the destruction of Hiroshima and before the Russian entry into the war. ...
Japanese saw what was done in Germany and were reluctant to surrender. They did not surrender unconditionally. They were allowed to retain the Emperor. A farsighted surrender would have allowed them to retain Korea. That would have save 50,000 American lives. There were to many Communists in the government to allow that. The progressive propaganda machine has done a fine job.
"In war there is no substitute for victory"
Islam has been a pain in the western ass for 1000 years. They are asking for it bad."
Excellent!... Nothing else need be said!
Two were all we had at the time. I’m sure the Koreans didn’t mind us nuking the Japs after how they were treated.
Absolute Hogwash Alert!
No...can’t be. Only Whites are racist....haven’t you read?!
The answer was that was all the appropriate fissile material we had at that moment. The Trinity test bomb, Little Boy (Hiroshima) and Fat Man (Nagasaki) were it for another month or two. Two was all it took to get to unconditional surrender.
Yup, after my infantry Father worked his way to Germany and killed the remaining Nazis, he was destined for the Pacific. EVERYONE in the world knew that Japan would fight an invasion to the last child. That was fact before the first nuke, it was still obvious before the second nuke. I call it a mercy killing for both sides.
That it even took two shows that the bomb was necessary to end the war.
Again? What’d they do this time?
August 6th 1945 right after Harry T. dropped the first biggie on them: “If they do not now accept our terms they may expect a ‘rain of ruin’ (Oh I like that line!) from the air the like of which has never been seen before on this Earth” The sneaky Japs still wouldn’t uncle so Harry fed ‘em another big one and that did the trick!
August 6th 1945 right after Harry T. dropped the first biggie on them: “If they do not now accept our terms they may expect a ‘rain of ruin’ (Oh I like that line!) from the air the like of which has never been seen before on this Earth” The sneaky Japs still wouldn’t uncle so Harry fed ‘em another big one and that did the trick!
Agreed.
From my historically-informed perspective, anyone saying the nukes weren’t needed is just showing their ignorance of the Pacific War. A good knowledge of the battle for Okinawa is really all that’s needed. But that, in perspective of knowledge of the whole war, really makes it ironclad. Only someone who is an anti-US shill or an ignorant fool, or both, could think otherwise.
Paradoxically, we saved many Japanese lives by dropping those bombs. As well as many American ones, but many, many more Japanese.
If we hadn’t dropped the nukes I probably wouldn’t be sitting here because my father would likely have been killed during the invasion of Japan.
Listening to the stories of those who lived in that era, I have no doubts that Truman would have been impeached had the bombs not been dropped in favor of a land invasion.
In anticipation of a land invasion, the War Department placed an order for 500,000 Purple Hearts. They are still drawing from that inventory today.
My wife and I continue to disagree over Hiroshima and Nagasaki. I argue it was necessary to end the war as quickly as possible...and my father was in training for the invasion of Japan.
Like they have been doing for the past 20 years I have been on FR?
And all the years I lived before.
Picture how Europe was in the fall of 1945. Now add weaponized bubonic plague to the mix.
We were prepared to keep building and dropping atomic bombs on Japan until they surrendered.
After the second Atomic bomb Japan surrendered.
I can remember the neighbors gathering around a Boston newspaper that had a photo of the explosion.
Atomic was not in anyone's vocabulary, and the power of the bomb was expressed in tons of TNT going off at the same time.
The Atomic bomb was kept such a secret nobody knew what to make of it.
There was no sympathy for the Japanese, even if we had to obliterate Japan by continued Atomic bombings. -Tom
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