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Asymptomatic Coronavirus Patients Can Still Develop Lung Damage
Global Biodefense ^ | June 25, 2020 | John Kinnear

Posted on 07/08/2020 10:36:50 AM PDT by CedarDave

I quickly learned that many patients with advanced COVID-19 disease bore none of the hallmarks of severe respiratory illness until they suddenly collapsed and died. ... [A] study from Wuhan, China, describes pathological lung changes on CT scans of completely asymptomatic patients. Asymptomatic carriage is not uncommon in other virulent infections, such as MRSA and C diff, but what is striking with SARS-CoV-2 (the virus that causes COVID-19) is that it may be accompanied by underlying organ damage.

The researchers found lesions consistent with inflammation of the underlying lung tissue (ground-glass opacities and consolidation, to use the medical jargon), which are not specific to SARS-CoV-2 infection and may be seen in many other forms of lung disease. What remains a mystery is why, despite these changes, patients do not display typical symptoms of pneumonia, such as severe shortness of breath.

About a quarter of the patients in the study developed a fever, cough and shortness of breath – but many did not. The idiosyncratic response to infection is one of several conundrums of COVID-19, such as why it targets certain groups and not others – two people with exactly the same demography and health may express the disease at opposite ends of the spectrum. The study reinforces that absence of symptoms does not imply the absence of harm.

Lack of symptoms in the face of active pathology carries a risk both to infected individuals and to the public. Current advice encourages patients to stay at home if they are asymptomatic, making late presentation to hospital and sudden death a distinct risk.

Fragments of evidence are slowly being pieced together, mainly from many small, disparate studies. The full picture will coalesce as the quality and quantity of evidence expand and refines our understanding of SARS-CoV-2.

(Excerpt) Read more at globalbiodefense.com ...


TOPICS: Health/Medicine; Science; Society
KEYWORDS: astudyfromwuhanchina; chicompropaganda; chicoms; china; coronavirus; covid19; fearpers; hcq; hydroxychloroquine; kungflu; lungs; moogoogaipandemic; panic; panicporn; panicpornstars; propergander; pulmonary; redchina; sarscov2; whatisthisidonteven; wuhanvirus; zpac
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And then there is the public health nightmare. As many as 40-45% of people infected with SARS-CoV-2 remain asymptomatic, with a viral load as high as those who are actively ill. Add to that the significant false-negative rate of up to 20% for screening tests – where people are wrongly told they don’t have the infection – and the scale of the problem is magnified. These are the covert transmitters who continue to shed the virus for up to 14 days and it raises clear questions about the effectiveness of the testing strategy or the use of screening measures such as temperature checking.

Posting only to encourage scientific discussion; not intending to be an associate of Doctor Doom with a sky-is-falling scenario.

However, that said, it's a good reason to start HCQ + zinc at first notification of a positive test (don't wait until you enter the hospital) or maybe use as a prophylactic before you receive a positive test.

Hat tip to metmom who sent me the original link.

1 posted on 07/08/2020 10:36:50 AM PDT by CedarDave
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To: CedarDave

Omygosh. Who can’t?


2 posted on 07/08/2020 10:38:47 AM PDT by Texas Eagle
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To: CedarDave

They probably can develop hang nails, too.


3 posted on 07/08/2020 10:39:16 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam
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To: CedarDave
[A] study from Wuhan, China...
4 posted on 07/08/2020 10:42:53 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: CedarDave
About a quarter of the patients in the study developed a fever, cough and shortness of breath – but many did not.

Boy howdy! That's some great journalistic writin' right there, I'm tellin' ya. I guess the author felt compelled to include the 'but many did not' part in case they were concerned that people couldn't figure out that 'about a quarter of the patients' wasn't all of them.

5 posted on 07/08/2020 10:43:36 AM PDT by Quality_Not_Quantity (This space vacant until further notice in compliance with social distancing 'guidelines')
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To: MayflowerMadam
"They probably can develop hang nails, too."

OMG - I've got that - I've got a hang nail! What do I do now!!!!

6 posted on 07/08/2020 10:43:55 AM PDT by Psalm 73
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To: CedarDave

7 posted on 07/08/2020 10:44:03 AM PDT by Veggie Todd (Voltaire: "Religion began when the first scoundrel met the first fool".)
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To: CedarDave

It’s magic.

So you’d better obey.


8 posted on 07/08/2020 10:46:43 AM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: CedarDave
Great post.
MORE to WHAT WE NEED TO SEE..discussion/reason NOT FEAR!!
9 posted on 07/08/2020 10:47:55 AM PDT by Paul46360 (What??ME worry?)
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To: CedarDave

“study from Wuhan, China”

Already know it’s a pack of lies intended to foment hysteria. And you should already know this too.


10 posted on 07/08/2020 10:50:24 AM PDT by thoughtomator (here comes the switch to Hillary)
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To: CedarDave
I don't have the scientific evidence handy, but I don't think I'd be going to far out on a limb to say everybody in the history of the world who got lung cancer drank water at lest once in their life.

My conclusion: People who drink water can still develop lung cancer.

11 posted on 07/08/2020 10:53:52 AM PDT by Texas Eagle
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To: CedarDave

“it’s a good reason to start HCQ + zinc at first notification of a positive test”

That’s just good advice in general. If you can get your doc to prescribe Plaquenil. He might be a Democrat, scoff at you. In which case, get rid of him.


12 posted on 07/08/2020 10:55:09 AM PDT by Regulator
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To: CedarDave

Got to love these fear and loathing pieces... Covid can cause this, covid can cause that... The numbers are minuscule and many of the people involved likely had existing ailments they never even knew about... But what the heck... Let's keep the fear and loathing going.

13 posted on 07/08/2020 10:55:33 AM PDT by jerod (Nazi's were essentially Socialist in Hugo Boss uniforms... Get over it!)
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To: gas_dr

Thoughts?


14 posted on 07/08/2020 10:55:35 AM PDT by tatown
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To: CedarDave

Lung damage is a bad way of putting it. What they have are radiographic findings which do not indicate any long term problems or damage. This also occurs in other pneumonias. It is impossible to tell how clinically ill someone is by looking at their CT scan. Same with no infectious things such as blood clots and the like.


15 posted on 07/08/2020 10:56:13 AM PDT by Mom MD
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To: CedarDave

The Karens against Trump and a strong America are beyond scratching the bottom of the barrow.

Each, day their Covid 19 assumes magical powers that can probably/maybe kill 10 generations from now.


16 posted on 07/08/2020 10:57:01 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Who, now in America, are people not allowed to criticize in our life, in public, and in politics?)
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To: CedarDave

The article confuses me.

Neither case cited by the author was asymptomatic: the old man was sick enough to warrant a CT scan of the chest; the other patient was gasping for air.

Now, it is possible that asymptomatic patients may have groundglass infiltrates on CT scan; some of these patients may be pre-symptomatic. Some of these patients have other reasons for groundglass infiltrates (pneomoconioses, mycobacterial infection, pulmonary fibrosis of any cause, etc.)

In all of these patients found to have infiltrates due to COVID, follow-up CT scans and pulmonary function tests in 6 months will determine if they have developed chronic lung disease.

And, yes, I agree with early Rx with HC + Zinc.


17 posted on 07/08/2020 10:57:25 AM PDT by paterfamilias
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To: thoughtomator
“study from Wuhan, China” Already know it’s a pack of lies intended to foment hysteria. And you should already know this too.

Yeah that was my take on it. One of the saddest results of this whole episode has been the utter destruction of science. I mean look at the flip-flop-flop-flipping over hydroxychloroquine. It's become impossible to objectively, rationally study and report on ANYTHING without politics getting involved. The WHO was just getting paid to distribute handouts from the Chinese Ministry of Propaganda.


18 posted on 07/08/2020 11:01:35 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer)
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To: Grampa Dave

It’s literally the Chuck Norris of viruses.

It can survive outside, on a bright, sunny day in full UV and 97 degree heat, for 37 days before jumping 5 feet 11 inches into my cat, causing his kidneys to explode.

Throughout this all I’ve read reporting that was not very far different from that.


19 posted on 07/08/2020 11:03:14 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer)
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To: CedarDave

Bump!


20 posted on 07/08/2020 11:05:47 AM PDT by Perseverando (Liberals, Progressives, Islamonazis, Statists, Commies, DemoKKKrats: It's a Godlessness disorder.)
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