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Packers infuriate fans by not drafting a wide receiver with any of their nine 2020 picks
Sporting News ^ | April 25, 2020 | Dan Bernstein

Posted on 04/26/2020 5:25:43 AM PDT by C19fan

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To: 9YearLurker

I know what the wonderlic is. I also know it has no proven efficacy at all. Actually the numbers on the wonderlic are largely random, and there’s no trend at all by position. It is as much junk science as Myers-Briggs and anybody making decision based on it are fools.

You don’t have a point. The simple fact is the Packers screwed up. They went into the off season with a well documented talent hole and failed to attempt to address it through any of the tools they have at their disposal. Your idea of “don’t draft get later” ignored the fact that they DIDN’T. They got no WRs in free agency. They did NOTHING to address the problem.


21 posted on 04/26/2020 8:54:24 AM PDT by discostu (I know that's a bummer baby, but it's got precious little to do with me)
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To: discostu

Uh, no. You are wrong across the board. Sure Wonderlic has added some personality stuff, but I am referring to their traditional score, which is indeed a mini-IQ test.

Football Position Average Wonderlic Score
Offensive Tackle 26
Center 25
Quarterback 24
Guard 23
Tight End 22
Safety 19
Linebacker 19
Cornerback 18
Wide Receiver 17
Fullback 17
Halfback 16

https://www.test-guide.com/wonderlic-scores.html

And you want a Mensa conversion?

https://www.us.mensa.org/join/testing/scoreevaluation/testscoreconversion/


22 posted on 04/26/2020 9:01:27 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Dr. Ursus

Danica Patrick, they live together in some mansion near LA that they recently purchased. I always heard the rumors that he was a picle smoker when I lived near GB but apparently they’re not true.


23 posted on 04/26/2020 9:32:13 AM PDT by fatman6502002 ((The Team The Team The Team - Bo Schembechler circa 1969))
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To: fatman6502002
I always heard the rumors that he was a picle smoker when I lived near GB but apparently they’re not true.

LOL, there are always "rumors" when a QB isn't married, I remember the same being said about Troy Aikman and Steve Young back in the day.

24 posted on 04/26/2020 9:33:47 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: discostu

“This isn’t about not picking high. They didn’t pick AT ALL. And free agency was last month, they didn’t buy an receivers then either. Their receiving core is Bob From Accounting and a Bag of Pucks. And they did nothing about it. Thought regime change in Green Bay would be good for the team but so far the replacements do the same things their predecessors did only more so.”

This is the best news I’ver heard in a long time.


25 posted on 04/26/2020 9:34:19 AM PDT by fatman6502002 ((The Team The Team The Team - Bo Schembechler circa 1969))
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To: DeplorableGirl

The Chiefs STOLE him at 32. I don’t what the other teams were thinking. A RB that comps as a Mark Ingram or Brian Westbrook should have been snatched well before 32.


26 posted on 04/26/2020 10:48:30 AM PDT by Salvavida
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To: 9YearLurker

You do realize your sample sizes are too small to be at all meaningful right? And those score differences are to small to be meaningful. And then the careers guys have have no relation to wonderlic. It’s junk science.


27 posted on 04/26/2020 11:20:55 AM PDT by discostu (I know that's a bummer baby, but it's got precious little to do with me)
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To: discostu

Ah, no. These tests have been taken for decades. And those scores range from the WRs and others on the low end averaging about the one third mark for IQ in the US population to those at the QB position up averaging about the two thirds point on the curve for the US population.

Pretty darned big difference.

And those Mensa folks? They have a decent handle on IQ tests and equivalents—valid and unvalid.

Keep trying though. (I hate to ask or surmise what football position, if any, you might have played back in the day....)


28 posted on 04/26/2020 11:34:34 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker

Myers Briggs has been around for 100 years. And is junk. Wonderlic is junk. And Mensa is just people jerking off over their test scores.


29 posted on 04/26/2020 11:49:46 AM PDT by discostu (I know that's a bummer baby, but it's got precious little to do with me)
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To: discostu

M-B is not related to Wonderlic.

Take your cheese hat off and get a clue.


30 posted on 04/26/2020 12:05:10 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker

They’re both junk science tests dumb people use to rate people. Your obsession with the wonderlic test has nothing to do with me being a fan of anybody or the fact that the Packers have done NOTHING this off season to improve their WR talent.


31 posted on 04/26/2020 12:07:21 PM PDT by discostu (I know that's a bummer baby, but it's got precious little to do with me)
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To: C19fan
Just find a QB that can catch his own passes.

Here's how it's done

32 posted on 04/26/2020 12:12:05 PM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: Salvavida

He’ll fit in well with the Chiefs offense. From college football champion to the Superbowl champions.
I guess KC coaches saw something the others didn’t. Good for them!


33 posted on 04/26/2020 12:25:40 PM PDT by DeplorableGirl
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To: discostu

It’s not an obsession. The one who seems obsessed about it—despite evidence of its relevance—is you. I only used it as one data point in my larger point, which you continue to completely miss.

Good luck, Cheesehead!


34 posted on 04/26/2020 1:36:53 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker

You keep ignoring the fact that they also didn’t pick any up in free agency. The only IQ tests that matters in this is the GM, how stupid do you have to be to go into the off season with one glaring hole in your team and do nothing to address it? You have no larger point. The larger point it the Packers went into off season with a no quality WRs, and they’re going into camp with no quality WRs. THAT is the point.


35 posted on 04/26/2020 1:39:16 PM PDT by discostu (I know that's a bummer baby, but it's got precious little to do with me)
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To: discostu

You’re a long way from the season. There are still free agents out there. Players who will be cut. Players who can be traded for.

My point that you stubbornly refuse to comprehend is that often there are better options out there than wasting picks on WR question marks, in large part because for the general WR market it is better to judge players after they’ve actually played in the league.

Again, look to Belichick and all his Superbowl wins. Last year was the exception for them in picking a WR at all or up high. This year, back to no WR signings (though a number of undrafted signings right after the draft).


36 posted on 04/26/2020 2:03:06 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker

Any free agent worth a crap is gone within the first week of free agency. Guys cut weren’t good enough for their team. You’re talking about picking through garbage when they had opportunities to not.

What you miss is that draftees are cheap. Are they a crap shoot, sure, but they’re cheap. Way cheaper than free agents. Belichick builds the team through free agency AND the draft. They’ve drafted plenty of WRs. The draft is useful, if you’ve got the eye. And don’t obsess on stupid crap like wonderlics.


37 posted on 04/26/2020 2:21:32 PM PDT by discostu (I know that's a bummer baby, but it's got precious little to do with me)
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To: discostu

Yep. Belichick and I, just missing your greater wisdom here on building winning NFL teams.


38 posted on 04/26/2020 3:00:50 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker

Belichick shows no history of giving a crap about the wonderlic. And he DOES draft WRs. So, now that we both know you’re full of it.


39 posted on 04/26/2020 3:12:09 PM PDT by discostu (I know that's a bummer baby, but it's got precious little to do with me)
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To: discostu

Very rarely does he draft WRs. And the point of Wonderlic was simply explaining one piece of why in particular he does more looking late or outside the draft. As I said, his 1st round pick last year was the exception proving the year.

Not a single WR picked yesterday, for example.


40 posted on 04/26/2020 3:18:01 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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