Posted on 04/04/2020 1:53:57 PM PDT by Hojczyk
Sorry, I'm not going to bet my life on the crappy inoculation track record.
I don't have a religious belief about vaccines, the problem is, unbiased studies show they're hit or miss - leaving alone the political/business side for now. And, they never exist when you need them - for the current virus strain - that's the catch.
I'd love to just get a shot in the arm and be done with it, but that's not reality.
There's many more strains of the COVID-19-ish virus, here's just one write up, I hope the inoculation you eventually someday get works for the strain(s) you encounter. Vaccines lag the generation of new strains.
You hear Mr. Trump talk about hydroxychloroquine, this a late disease phase solution to force zinc (not a drug) into cells to interrupt virus reproduction. Zinc is given along with the hydroxychloroquine to the patient for this treatment. This approach isn't limited for use with a particular strain only.
But, you wouldn't want to wait for a hospital hydroxychloroquine treatment. A virus infection has multiple stages, earlier stages of the infection can be stopped, outside of a hospital visit, if you know how and take deliberate action.
100 years or so ago, when vacuum tubes were high tech, vaccines were a miracle. Mars Attack movies and Martians were scary science fiction - but now we have video from the surface of Mars - kind of hard to sell those kind of movies nowadays.
A virus is not all that scary anymore, they have been studied for decades since the now archaic vaccine solution arrived on the scene, now we know numerous ways that viruses have weaknesses to be exploited, and how to work with the body to kill them.
For example, washing your hands with just soap and water not only dilutes the concentration of viruses, but has been shown to destroy the viral lipid coat rendering it benign. The virus is no longer capable of binding to a cell.
A big weapon in our arsenal is the use of high dose Vitamin C against...COVID-19. Some news items on that...
Three Intravenous Vitamin C Research Studies Approved for Treating COVID-19
New York hospitals treating coronavirus patients with vitamin C
Learn about Vitamin C, some reading...
Dr. Levy on the Coronavirus – Vitamin C Forum, Learn about Vitamin C
The use of Liposomal Vitamin C is the expensive near last resort form of C that you should own and have at the ready, but take grams in a day of inexpensive C on a regular basis - as explained in the Vitamin C Foundation article above.
This is only ONE component of defeating viruses. There are more, along with key supplements.
Any county that isn't prepared for war, has already lost the next conflict. Same goes for your body's defenses. The past doesn't matter as much as picking up where you are and pressing on.
If you haven't noticed, I have little patients dealing with closed minded pro-vaxx minions doing the foot soliders' job trying to force mandatory inoculations. There's are billions of dollars at stake for the drug manufacturers, they really don't want the average person to know the basics of health - they want you to delegate your trust to them, and they'll slowly kill you extracting your money along the way.
Lots of unnecessary suffering and death because this information is being suppressed as much as possible - search engines now flood search results with AMA doctor misleading opinions on these subjects. It's a crime against humanity.
Dr. E says Hydroxychloroquine with Zinc is Working, Toast with Schweppes Tonic Water!
Per the doctor, Schweppes Tonic Water and 50mg to 100mg Zinc.
If I have time, I'll probably transcribe some key points from this video and post to a new discussion thread.
This doctor is speaking the truth, he's risking his career in the AMA world. He's animated, making strong points, about the same way that I am.
Besides what is in this video, in my opinion you can defeat a flu using high dose Vitamin C (3000mg to 6000mg a day baseline, up to 20000mg a day if sick), and hydrogen Peroxide throat soak, and ear canal soak reducing virus load to the point where you can over take it.
Note that vitamin C blocks/reduces zinc absorption, avoid taking C an something like an hour before and after taking zinc. That's the hydrogen peroxide (3%) you'll find in Walmart next to the rubbing alcohol.
Hydrogen Peroxide and preventive levels of Vitamin C will not give you immunity from the virus, these will fight along with your immune system to stop the current viral challenge. You will have waves of being challenged, and fighting off those challenges, be persistent with this.
You don't need to respond, for some reason it bothers me knowing there are susceptible people out there who may wait until they're really sick when simple mitigating steps could be taken. Add 50mg to 100mg Zinc and Vitamin D to your daily diet.
Everyone will probably be exposed at some point in time.
I would demand them from my Doctor at the first sign of a possible COVID-19 symptom. And I am confident she would give them to me.
Every day I take megadoses of vitamins and minerals, including an extra 4000 mg vitamin C and 50 mg zinc, and have been taking them for forty years.
Go get a copy of Earl Mindell's Vitamin Bible. That's eleven pills in the morning and nine pills at bedtime.
Give it up.
Apparently INGA knows everything and the rest of us know nothing.
The polio vaccine was wonderful. I have family who were fortunate enough to have the vaccine and lived through those times of quarantine (where those sick were quarantined) and family who had polio and some died and some lived while being crippled.
And life went on and an economy wasn’t shut down because of it.
My cousin lived her entire life, after getting polio, with a crippled leg and lung issues. She died a couple of years ago after living a full life, having been widowed, and survived by two kids and four grandchildren. She traveled the world.
Vaccines are a Godsend most of the time but not all of the time.
I have never been to partial to Tonic water but a gallon a day would probably go down the hatch with one of the kool-aid flavors.
Agree.
But then there’s the Gardasil vaccine. I had my girls get it when they were 16 (not 12) and now I sorta regret it. It really doesn’t protect against much.
And the flu vaccine. Never had it myself. One daughter gets it because it’s required for her job as a nurse. My two oldest didn’t get the chicken pox vaccine and had chicken pox and were fine. Two youngest got the vaccine, many years after it was instituted, and fine.
And as you noted, nothing in life is 100% safe.
Glad for the polio vaccine. Whatever about the Chicken pox vaccine. Still questioning the Gardasil vaccine. Eh, the flu vaccine.
And now this Covid vaccine once it’s available in two years...is it going to be like the flu vaccine that doesn’t protect against the current strain of flu?
The polio vaccine actually made a difference.
Oh I think there’s many things as frightening.
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I think you are exactly right. Damn scary, isn't it?
I get the worry. Polio was a life saving vaccine.
Was the chicken pox vaccine? Is the flu vaccine? Is the Gardasil vaccine? I really don’t know about those.
Is the upcoming vaccine for this most recent china virus good/worth it?
The most recent vaccines: flu and gardasil. How does the flu vaccine help protect when the strain may not be protected by the vaccine? Gardasil...it was very controversial here and elsewhere...My kids got it when they were 16. I erred on the side of caution for that but what does it actually prevent?
And now the new Covid vaccination that’s being worked on by Bill Gates, etc. What are we supposed to think about that? I think we should question everything especially when it’s promoted by someone like him and could affect our livelihood. I don’t think this is like the polio vaccine.
“My Wife and I are barricaded in our house waiting for a COVID-19 vaccine. I suppose it really depends on how you want to die and if you are gullible enough to believe nonsense.”
Why are you barricaded in your house when a vaccine is at least a year and half away?
I think it depends on how you want to live rather than how you want to die.
Are you willing to live your life inside your barricaded house for another year and a half or more until a vaccine is available?
If so, that’s fine for you and those who believe like you but even during the Polio Epidemic, people didn’t barricade themselves inside their homes until a vaccine was available.
Have you not understood history?
Yeah I guess it really does depend on how one wants to live their life and nonsense. Or their version of life and nonsense.
You’re wasting your time. So am I.
Far too many are sheep being led to slaughter.
The strong always survive and I fear I will survive.I hope there’s enough of us to win, lol.
And I sure as hell ain’t hiding out in my house.
I guess Inga is who we are supposed to follow 70+ years later because that’s relevant somehow?
Well said.
Now that I read your entire post!
Exactly.
“Sheeple like you side with the left, and want to give up out freedom for the false hope of trading your individualism for groupism which will only lead to blood in the streets in the end.
You people sicken me - when I think of all those young men who died in battle, continuing even after the poor bloke next to them are killed in the most gory way, but those young men carried on securing our freedom - only for our society to get to this point where the Left is welcomed as our saviors.
You’re been propagandized to believing you’re going to die, not with a gun pointed at your head, but a novel virus, and you can be saved if you go along with the sheeple Left.
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Terrifying.
Excuse me for not fulfilling your expectations. My wife has not been out of the house but a handful of times in the past several years. I do the shopping about once every two weeks. We had plenty of TP, 60 rolls, paper towels, 32 rolls, and gobs of food when all this started because we bargain shop and stock up as a habit. We are retired and basically have no place to go at all. This really doesn't seem much different from day-to-day for us.
Actually the only time I leave the house other than grocery shopping is to return decorator items my wife purchased online from BB&B, Williams-Sonoma or Pottery Barn, that didn't work out for her tastes. We have not eaten out in years because we don't enjoy it. I have been known to pickup takeout from Williamson Bros. Bar-B-Q once every six months because it is also, "In the Shadow of The Big Chicken."
I only used the word barricaded to keep in the spirit of Governor Kemp's shelter in place order. I did leave the house at the thirty day mark to take the dog to the groomer. His toenails had gotten so long he was skating across the floor and couldn't stand up very well to eat his dog food.
Do we have your permission to live the way we desire?
Twink - just a note, I've read in the past that the polio vaccine was introduce after the peak of the Polio population infection curve, so the new cases were falling off naturally by that point in time.
Just say'n for your information, the Polio case drilled into our heads in grade school may have been more political than science.
I regret I don't have a reference for this, I go though reams of information, and saw this years ago. If nothing else is gained from this destruction of our economy, at least folks may now understand what "flattening of the curve" is, and that fact that there is a curve at all. A Polio vaccine released at the peak of the curve looks highly successful to the uninformed masses.
Also, back then, there was a concerted effort taking place to label non AMA doctors as quacks as the legal drug pushers were consolidating power.
I guess if you're used to drinking the Kool-aid, you can't stop easily. :-)
Per your other post, Williamson Bros. Bar-B-Q once every six months because it is also, "In the Shadow of The Big Chicken.", unfortunately some of us don't have such a good temptation like that within a reasonable driving range.
I assume you're referencing this Big Chicken - In January 1993, storm winds damaged the structure, and rather than tear it down KFC was forced by public outcry to re-erect the building. Among those who complained about the Big Chicken being torn down were pilots, who used the building as a reference point when approaching Hartsfield–Jackson Atlanta International Airport and Dobbins Air Reserve Base. - entirely true or not, it's interesting.
I'm certainly no expert but from what I've heard the CV19 virus mutates as fast as the flu virus. So any vaccine may be just as unreliable as flu vaccines. The trick is selecting the right strain early enough to make a big supply of vaccine but it's like gambling.
I've had no problems with flu vaccine since they changed from making it with live viruses. It hasn't always protected against the strain of flu that is dominant in any given season but I haven't contracted flu from the vaccine as I often did in the live virus days.
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