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Discuss: What will be the effects of a long-term shutdowns and quarantines? How will liberalism use this crisis further its agenda? What about seeing deaths in perspective of other causes? And preparation for eternity?
Free Republic ^ | 03.15.2020 | daniel1212

Posted on 03/16/2020 7:32:15 AM PDT by daniel1212

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To: fireman15

“What is now being done in Washington is completely out of proportion to the risks and actually insane unless there is another motivation. That motivation is to cause panic to destroy the economy to influence the next election.”

It doesn’t have to be one or the other, it can be (and is) all of the above. We’re in the fog of war at the moment, muddling along in panic without thinking with some people trying to do the right thing others taking advantage of the situation.

The fog will start clearing as time goes on. In a few weeks we’ll have better visibility.


41 posted on 03/16/2020 9:24:59 AM PDT by aquila48 (Do not let them make you care!)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
Price of gas has been drifting down here. Down about 20 cents a gallon in the past couple weeks. We’ve seen panic buying in stores as has been seen elsewhere.

People in rural ares are likely more thankful they are not in the big cities now.

As for gas, lowest I see around her is 1.69. You may have seen this: Crude oil prices have plummeted. Why not prices at the pump?

42 posted on 03/16/2020 9:29:01 AM PDT by daniel1212 ( Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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To: aquila48
2. Isolation and containment to a small restricted population until it is eradicated in that population. This is what’s being tried now, but it’s going to be tough to do it this way.

Though that could leave more people vulnerable in the long term than acquired immunity via a larger community being infected and recovering, though the mortality rate is what makes #1 and #2 more preferable.

“Italy holds the Largest Chinese Diaspora Community in the EU Today” That’s a ridiculous red herring. The US and especially Canada have a far greater Chinese immigrant population than Italy, both in absolute terms and per capita.

I actually had researched this in response to a statement and thus i stated, "Actually research shows Chinese only make up about 0.28% of Italy, and non-Chinese Asian make up 0.83%

However, the "Is It Related" conjecture was based on an premise that the outbreak occurred where high concentrations of Chinese are, stating that "The coronavirus was detected near Padua back on February 21. Around 50,000 Chinese are employed in Prato alone, Italy’s textile capital near Florence. Is It Related."

But that postulated correlation does lack substance.

But other factors are,

One factor affecting the country's death rate may be the age of its population — Italy has the oldest population in Europe, with about 23% of residents 65 or older, according to The New York Times. The median age in the country is 47.3, compared with 38.3 in the United States, the Times reported. Many of Italy's deaths have been among people in their 80s, and 90s, a population known to be more susceptible to severe complications from COVID-19, according to The Local....

Often, as testing expands within a community, more mild cases are found, which lowers the overall death rate, Gordon said. This was the case in South Korea, which conducted more than 140,000 tests and found a fatality rate of 0.6%, according to Business Insider. - https://www.livescience.com/why-italy-coronavirus-deaths-so-high.html

43 posted on 03/16/2020 9:59:19 AM PDT by daniel1212 ( Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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To: aquila48

My best friend is a Battalian Chief on the department that I used to work for and a member of FEMA who frequently gets sent all over the country. They made everyone in my former department read up on all sorts of the most current info on the Coronavirus. Everyone with a sniffle in this area now believes that they have the dreaded virus. This has increased the call volume tremendously.

Despite the lock down in this area, there has been no detectable increase in people dying from pneumonia outside of the Kirkland area.


44 posted on 03/16/2020 10:32:28 AM PDT by fireman15
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To: HIDEK6

This is all to kill the trump economy and nothing more. The pending doom and gloom I bet will never materialize but their damage will be done. Knowing trump he has other plans. Why did we not experience this hysterical hysteria and near economic collapse with the swine flu that killed 14000 Americans? 14000! This smells of sh##


45 posted on 03/16/2020 11:19:10 AM PDT by ronnie raygun (nicdip.com)
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You did hear that they caught comrade DeBlasio going to his gym this morning in violation of his business shutdown didn’t you?


46 posted on 03/16/2020 7:08:15 PM PDT by HIDEK6 ( God bless Donald Trump.)
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