Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

After first 737 Max crash, why did Boeing’s pilot warning fail to stop second plane from going down?
Fortune ^ | March 9, 2020 | Alan Levin

Posted on 03/10/2020 3:13:13 PM PDT by Yo-Yo

Eight days after a Boeing Co. 737 Max went down in the Java Sea, killing all aboard, the planemaker issued a worldwide warning to pilots identifying the malfunction that triggered the crash.

The bulletin, which was followed almost immediately by a similar notice from U.S. regulators, listed the symptoms cockpit crews faced in such an emergency and explained how to counteract it. News reports described the problem.

Yet less than five months later a second 737 Max went down, slamming into a field in Ethiopia, after suffering the same malfunction. As the one-year anniversary of that crash approaches, many questions remain about why the two pilots lost control.

Was the bulletin’s technical language clear enough? Did Boeing and the regulators who signed off on the warning underestimate the chaos of alarms blaring in the cockpit of the doomed jet? Could the pilots have been fatigued or sick? Should, as one whistle-blower has suggested, Ethiopian pilots have gotten more training on the malfunction?

“I think that’s a central question: Why?” said Jeffrey Guzzetti, the former head of the FAA’s accident investigation bureau. “There’s all kind of potential underlying threads.”

A flaw in the design of the 737 Max has already been identified as a main reason for the crash of a Lion Air plane near Jakarta. The Ethiopian Aircraft Accident Investigation Bureau hasn’t released its findings but a preliminary report out last April showed a similar malfunction also occurred on that flight.

The Ethiopian investigators are poised to release an interim report on the March 10 crash in coming days. A draft of the report focuses on Boeing’s flawed design according to people who have seen it.

Ethiopian government officials and the airline have steadfastly defended the pilots. Transport Minister Dagmawit Moges in April said they followed “all the procedures repeatedly.” Airline Chief Executive Officer Tewolde GebreMariam has bristled in interviews over implications that the crew didn’t perform properly.

A committee of the U.S. Congress on Friday issued its own preliminary findings on the Max and said its design and development “was marred by technical design failures, lack of transparency with both regulators and customers, and efforts to obfuscate information about the operation of the aircraft.”

Boeing added a flight-control feature called the Maneuvering Characteristics Augmentation System, or MCAS, which was programmed to automatically drive down the nose in some circumstances, without adequately assessing its risks, Indonesia’s National Transportation Safety Committee concluded in October.

The company assumed pilots would respond to a malfunction of MCAS within four seconds, but the Lion Air crash and an incident on the same plane a day earlier showed that wasn’t realistic, the investigation found.

Yet the environment was different for the Ethiopian crew.

Boeing’s bulletin on Nov. 6, 2018, and an emergency directive by the U.S. Federal Aviation Administration didn’t specifically name MCAS, but the system was widely identified in news reports within days.

The bulletin listed nine possible symptoms in such a failure. If any of them occurred while the plane tried to nose down on its own, the directive said: “do the Runaway Stabilizer NNC ensuring that the STAB TRIM CUTOUT switches are set to CUTOUT and stay in the CUTOUT position for the remainder of the flight.”

In the nomenclature of aviation, that meant perform an emergency checklist shutting off power to the motor driving down the nose and keep it off.

The directive was made a part of the Ethiopian carrier’s manuals. Within two days of Boeing’s notice, a senior Ethiopian Airlines pilot had emailed the company’s crews to reiterate the warning, according to records reviewed by Bloomberg News.

Teasing out clues for why Captain Yared Getachew and copilot Ahmed Nur Mohammod reacted the way they did is critical, according to several former crash investigators and safety experts. Not only will it help shed light on the grounded 737 Max’s flaws and whether initial warnings were adequate, but it also is relevant to broad issues of pilot training and competency, they said.

According to the Ethiopian preliminary report, the pilots took several vexing actions.

They performed an important step in Boeing’s recommended emergency response to the malfunction: shutting off power to the electric motor that was driving down their nose. But they then restored power shortly before losing control.

They also left the plane’s throttle set to takeoff power, which prompted it to fly faster than its maximum allowable speed and made it far more difficult to control. Other actions, such as trying to activate the autopilot, appear to have been opposite of what they should have done in the emergency.

It would be easy to simply point the finger at the pilots, but that doesn’t take into account the calamitous conditions in the cockpit, said John Cox, a former airline pilot and president of the consulting company Safety Operating Systems.

A failed sensor was triggering multiple errors and warnings, including a loud thumping noise on the captain’s control column signaling -- falsely, it turned out -- the plane was nearing an aerodynamic stall. They also had unreliable airspeed and altitude readings.

It’s unfair “sitting in an office saying they should have known” how to respond, Cox said. Investigators should examine how the chaos would have impacted the pilots’ performance, he said.

Another area investigators should review is the adequacy of the Boeing bulletin, Cox said. While it mentioned the multiple failures that could occur at the same time, it didn’t expressly warn crews about how chaotic they could be, he said.

Such pilot warnings have been criticized as inadequate in previous accidents, Guzzetti said.

The U.S. National Transportation Safety Board, for example, criticized the FAA for a similar type of warning it issued to pilots after an earlier model of the 737 crashed near Pittsburgh in 1994.

“It should be something they are looking at,” Guzzetti said. “How effective was the wording, the presentation and the prioritization?”

While it will be impossible to know exactly what Getachew and Nur were thinking during the frantic five-minute flight, crash investigations typically follow a basic script to get clues.

They take a close look at pilots’ lives in the days prior to the crash for signs of illness, fatigue or other personal factors that could affect their actions.

In the Lion Air crash, investigators found that the captain was sick and the copilot had been called in at 4 a.m. as a substitute for the scheduled crew member.

The type of training that pilots received and how well they performed in their careers are also areas that can help investigators understand accidents.

Nur, the 25-year-old Ethiopian copilot who was almost new to the plane, might get attention from investigators. He had only 361 hours of flying experience in his brief career and less in the 737: 56 hours in the Max and 151 hours in other models of the plane. He had been flying the aircraft for less than 90 days.

Pilots’ training and skills have been relevant in multiple previous accidents.

Both of the Lion Air pilots had exhibited problems in those areas, Indonesian investigators found. Most significantly, the copilot had had difficulty locating checklists and performing in emergency scenarios.

A Canadian man who was a pilot for Ethiopian Airlines before resigning last year said he tried before the crash to warn the carrier that crews weren’t adequately prepared.

In the months after the Lion Air accident, Bernd Kai von Hoesslin frequently quizzed copilots he worked alongside about the MCAS bulletin and most of them couldn’t answer detailed questions, he said in multiple interviews with Bloomberg News.

The airline called von Hoesslin a disgruntled former employee and disputed his allegations in statements. The airline “strictly complies with all global safety standards and regulatory requirements,” it said in a Twitter post last year.

Von Hoesslin submitted records to the U.S. NTSB, which is participating in the probe, but hasn’t been contacted by Ethiopian investigators, he said in an email.

The quality of training at the airline should also be a part of the investigation, said Roger Cox, a former NTSB investigator and airline pilot.

Representatives of the airline didn’t respond to requests for comment on this story.

Were crews adequately taught to be comfortable flying a plane manually during an emergency? Were junior pilots coached to speak up when a captain made a mistake? Were they given realistic emergency scenarios during training?

These are not just questions that could help explain why the Ethiopian crew lost control, but probing them for answers could help improve safety across the world, Cox said.

“Have you done enough to ensure that those guys together have an adequate ability to handle an emergency?” he said. “It’s an extremely important question to ask.”


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Travel
KEYWORDS: 737; aerospace; boeing; max; planecrash
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-49 next last
Today marks the one year anniversary of the crash of Ethiopian Airlines Flight 302.

Were the pilots fully trained? The Captain, Yared Getachew, went into Ethiopian Airlines' Flight School straight out of High School.

1 posted on 03/10/2020 3:13:13 PM PDT by Yo-Yo
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: Yo-Yo

Boeing is one screwed up company. They are run by democrps.


2 posted on 03/10/2020 3:22:21 PM PDT by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Have!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Yo-Yo

The control system was way too complex, yet not complex enough to adequately cover at least one of its fault modes.


3 posted on 03/10/2020 3:23:24 PM PDT by Paladin2
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: CodeToad
"They are run by democrps."

Who now live in Chicago.

4 posted on 03/10/2020 3:24:08 PM PDT by Paladin2
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: CodeToad
Don't forget just in time crap parts, designed and constructed via "Agile" and made in China.

"Hey, how come pahts don't fit? Sum Ting Wong."

5 posted on 03/10/2020 3:27:03 PM PDT by Sirius Lee (They are openly stating that they intend to murder us. Prep if you want to live.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Yo-Yo

I’m waiting to see what the people on Mayday Air Catastrophe have to say.


6 posted on 03/10/2020 3:27:38 PM PDT by Oshkalaboomboom
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Yo-Yo

The Ethiopian Captain thought they were entering a stall and wanted to gain altitude. Conditions in Egypt at the time made gaining altitude more important than at other airports.

The crew desperately tried to gain altitude and fought the computer (MCAS) that kept nosing the plane down because the angle of attack (AOA) sensor was broken on takeoff.

Boeing did not use redundant sensors for input into the MCAS system like Airbus does for its many automated systems.

Typically, you use at least three sensors so you can have two that agree. Airbus does that....but they have experience in computer-controlled flight.

Boeing does not and messed this up big time.


7 posted on 03/10/2020 3:29:14 PM PDT by Erik Latranyi (The Democratic Party is communism)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Paladin2

First World Piots knew what to do and how to fly out of all it.
Third World “pilots” do not have air sense nor do they have judgment.


8 posted on 03/10/2020 3:32:49 PM PDT by Hulka
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Paladin2

First World Piots knew what to do and how to fly out of all it.
Third World “pilots” do not have air sense nor do they have judgment.


9 posted on 03/10/2020 3:32:50 PM PDT by Hulka
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Sirius Lee

As long as Boeing practices ‘diversity’. Their executives are found on LinkedIn preaching diversity far more than quality or safety.


10 posted on 03/10/2020 3:35:43 PM PDT by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Have!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: Yo-Yo

This article tries to shift blame to the pilots. Maybe there is some truth there but the perception of the public is the plane has a flawed design and development. It will be interesting if this plane ever flies again.


11 posted on 03/10/2020 3:43:41 PM PDT by xp38
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Erik Latranyi

“The Ethiopian Captain thought they were entering a stall and wanted to gain altitude.”

WRONG! They were pulling back on the yokes trying to establish attitude.


12 posted on 03/10/2020 3:46:56 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: xp38

“This article tries to shift blame to the pilots. Maybe there is some truth there but the perception of the public is the plane has a flawed design and development. It will be interesting if this plane ever flies again.”

Boeing most definitely screwed the pooch, and they’re going to have a hard time climbing out of this mess.

But any properly trained pilot knows his/her plane and the airspeed/pitch combination that - given the engines are producing the proper thrust - tells them that the plane is not stalling, even given contra indicating signs. (I flew fighters/trainers - we always had to have all these relationships in mind at all times, because reaction times were sometimes measured in a couple seconds. )


13 posted on 03/10/2020 3:54:46 PM PDT by Da Coyote
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: xp38

“It will be interesting if this plane ever flies again.”

It definitely will IMO, but now 800 of them need wiring work. That will take a while...


14 posted on 03/10/2020 3:54:50 PM PDT by PreciousLiberty (Make America Greater Than Ever!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: CodeToad

“Boeing is one screwed up company. They are run by democrps.”

One might think that they figured if a crash could be blamed on the pilots, then they’d be off the hook. I wonder if they still think that, particularly if they own stock.


15 posted on 03/10/2020 3:57:20 PM PDT by BobL (If some people here don't want to prep for Coronavirus, they can explain it to their families)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: PreciousLiberty

“It definitely will IMO, but now 800 of them need wiring work. That will take a while...”

Thanks to Coronavirus, they’ll have several years to get the mods done before any of their customers need those planes.


16 posted on 03/10/2020 3:59:32 PM PDT by BobL (If some people here don't want to prep for Coronavirus, they can explain it to their families)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: CodeToad

Indian $9 H1B trash developing critical control software. Even today getting emails to work at Boeing from mainly Indian body shops


17 posted on 03/10/2020 4:01:41 PM PDT by Starcitizen (American. No hypenation necessary. Send the H1B and H4EAD slime home. American jobs for Americans)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: Yo-Yo
"Boeing added a flight-control feature called the Maneuvering Characteristics Augmentation System"

It's an added feature in the same way that winding duct tape around a leaking hose is an added feature.
18 posted on 03/10/2020 4:04:54 PM PDT by Telepathic Intruder
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Oshkalaboomboom

Ha ha.


19 posted on 03/10/2020 4:07:12 PM PDT by crusty old prospector
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: Paladin2

No he works for Airbus!


20 posted on 03/10/2020 4:08:06 PM PDT by tallyhoe
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-49 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson