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Oxford University proposes dropping twin classic texts Homer's Iliad and Virgil's Aeneid from Classics syllabus in bid to modernise and attract more state school pupils
UK Daily Mail ^ | February 20, 2020 | Kumail Jaffer and Bryony Jewell

Posted on 02/20/2020 6:19:39 AM PST by C19fan

Oxford University has shocked classics students by proposing to drop two of the most important texts from its syllabus.

Virgil's Aeneid and Homer's Iliad may be made optional in an attempt to modernise the degree course, amid a drop in schools teaching Latin and Greek.

But undergraduates say the works are vital to understanding the subject. Jan Preiss, a second-year at New College and president of the Oxford Latinitas Project, has started a petition to keep the texts.

'Removing Homer and Virgil would be a terrible and fatal mistake,' he said.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


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KEYWORDS: college; greek; latin; university
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1 posted on 02/20/2020 6:19:39 AM PST by C19fan
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Modernizing the Classics is a bit of an oxymoron.


2 posted on 02/20/2020 6:21:36 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (If White Privilege is real, why did Elizabeth Warren lie about being an Indian?)
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To: C19fan

And will their physics department reduce their calculus, set theory, and topology requirements in order to draw more students?
Of course, they will not.
And hopefully, Oxford will retain their reputation for excellence in the classics by simply telling students to either hack the program or go to a place with no standards.
Like Harvard.


3 posted on 02/20/2020 6:22:39 AM PST by Da Coyote
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To: ClearCase_guy

My experience was not that the Iliad was hard, it was first learning to read Greek


4 posted on 02/20/2020 6:23:11 AM PST by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12) Progressives are existential American enemies)
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To: C19fan

Honors freshman in high school reading back in my day.

(I must sound ancient to the Millennials here!)


5 posted on 02/20/2020 6:24:56 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: C19fan

Pursuit of excellence? No... not anymore..

Western Civilization has utterly lost its way....

I often am left wondering if Western Europe has ever fully recovered from the utter decimation of its lineage wiped out during WWI... and WWII.. because it sure seems today that collectively it is a LOT dumber and softer than it was before.


6 posted on 02/20/2020 6:26:07 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: C19fan

If changes simplifying education keep trends like this going eventually students won’t even be able to read Homer Simpson.


7 posted on 02/20/2020 6:27:08 AM PST by Hillarys Gate Cult
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'Removing Homer and Virgil would be a terrible and fatal mistake'

Hyperbole: from Greek hyperbole "exaggeration, extravagance," literally "a throwing beyond," from hyper- "beyond" + bole "a throwing, a casting, the stroke of a missile, bolt, beam,"

8 posted on 02/20/2020 6:27:30 AM PST by edwinland
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To be replaced with what? Heather Has Two Mommies? Peyton Place? Harry Potter Series?...................


9 posted on 02/20/2020 6:31:16 AM PST by Red Badger (CWII is coming. It won't be nice like the last one....................)
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To: 9YearLurker

Yeah, we read those in HIGH SCHOOL!...................


10 posted on 02/20/2020 6:31:53 AM PST by Red Badger (CWII is coming. It won't be nice like the last one....................)
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There are a lot of people in college who don’t realize that nearly EVERY play, movie, or novel take their basic stories from these classics, other Greek tragedies, and the Bible.

I guess if they dont make you read these all of their “exciting” and new stories will seem very “bright” and better than anything ever written.

They are so tedious.


11 posted on 02/20/2020 6:36:25 AM PST by Vermont Lt
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To: Red Badger

Audacity Of A Dope.


12 posted on 02/20/2020 6:36:32 AM PST by wally_bert (Your methods were a little incomplete, you too for that matter.)
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I rather enjoyed seeing BOJO recite a portion of the Iliad in Greek, complete with gestures and mannerism.

Not many heads of state could accomplish that today (though in 1900, probably most British politicians could)


13 posted on 02/20/2020 6:43:05 AM PST by CondorFlight
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To: C19fan

Dumb s^^ts!


14 posted on 02/20/2020 6:43:08 AM PST by Agatsu77
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To: ClearCase_guy

Instead of the Iliad they will be covering equally classic tales like “The DaVinci Code” and “50 Shades of Grey”


15 posted on 02/20/2020 6:44:38 AM PST by pepsi_junkie (Often wrong, but never in doubt!)
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It’s all part of their revolution. I’m a millennial and my PUBLIC high school in a middle class community had Latin courses (that included selections from the Aeneid), western humanities courses, a special course that mixed American history with American music and art, etc. Spoke with a former teacher recently and it’s all been removed in favor of multicultural BS and they are now prohibited from grading students too harshly. Any effort at all, even a name on the paper, gets a minimum of 50%, and the administration comes down hard on them if they hand out final grades lower than a B, especially if “people of color” are involved.


16 posted on 02/20/2020 6:44:50 AM PST by Stravinsky
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There’s no a lot of schools in the world that offer doctorates in such subjects.

One is plenty.

But there needs to be one.


17 posted on 02/20/2020 6:46:28 AM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: wally_bert

Dreams of My Father (Whoever he may be)........................


18 posted on 02/20/2020 6:47:08 AM PST by Red Badger (CWII is coming. It won't be nice like the last one....................)
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To: Red Badger

In my English class, mind you, but still!


19 posted on 02/20/2020 6:50:57 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: C19fan

“Modernizing” the curriculum (all levels all subjects) always involves NOT teaching something.


20 posted on 02/20/2020 6:51:50 AM PST by Salman (Democrats -- The *other* religion of peace.)
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