How eight crew members on board the Confederate H.L. Hunley submarine were killed by their OWN torpedo after they sunk a Union warship in 1864

Daily Mail ^ | February 19, 2020 | Keith Griffith

[Reddy]

I’ve always been fascinated by the bravery of those who went down on the Hunley. It’s kind of comforting to know they didn’t suffer.

[Inyo-Mono]

Takes a special kind of courage to crawl into a little metal tube that sank twice before.

It sure does!

[MacNaughton]

Thanks for posting. Have had a life-long interest in the H.L. Hunley since watching the premier episode ("The Hunley") of CBS's "The Great Adventure" on 9/27/1963. Finally made the trip to North Charleston in 2007 to view the Hunley at the Warren Lasch Conservation Center.

Loved the pictures. It is fascinating that to see the best pictures of events in the U.S., be they political, criminal, etc., I end up at British web-sites, e.g., UK Daily Mail.

[Southside_Chicago_Republican]

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[Karl Spooner]

A remarkable piece of southern engineering.

[75thOVI]

It wasn’t me, but I do know something on the subject. The torpedo had a barbed spike on the forward end. This lodged in the Housatonic’s hull and the Hunley went full astern. The charge pulled loose from the spar, and a line ran from the charge to a spool on the upper side, starboard I believe, just forward of the hatch. When the line pulled tight, the charge was detonated. This would give a slight stand-off when the charge went off. However, in an uncompressible environment, it really wouldn’t have made much of a difference.

[grey_whiskers]

“You arrogant ass. You’ve killed US!”

[grey_whiskers]

"...2000, adding to the mystery"

What's that?

Mystery Submarine Theater 2000?

[bravo whiskey]

Another threory, given he bodies were found at their stations and not piled up at the hatch was asphyxiation. They had to wait for the tide to shift as they did not have the energy to row home and they just slowly ran out of oxygen and passed out. we visited her and the cemetery a few years back.

[TigersEye]

Hey, it coulda happened. If they had the BP in a steel can and tied it to the bumper. :)

[75thOVI]

Actually the problem would not have been lack of O2, but rather CO2 build up. I visited the cemetery a few years back myself. Left my dolphins on Lt. Dixon’s grave.

[DiogenesLamp]

It wasn’t me, but I do know something on the subject. The torpedo had a barbed spike on the forward end. This lodged in the Housatonic’s hull and the Hunley went full astern. The charge pulled loose from the spar, and a line ran from the charge to a spool on the upper side, starboard I believe, just forward of the hatch. When the line pulled tight, the charge was detonated. This would give a slight stand-off when the charge went off. However, in an uncompressible environment, it really wouldn’t have made much of a difference.

This is actually incorrect. This was the method they thought was used, but the Freeper that posted the pictures last year had proof that the torpedo was permanently attached to the iron spar. The remains of the copper container can still be seen firmly bolted to the iron spar. It didn't come off.

[bitt]

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[TXnMA]

" Didn’t you have some involvement in this?"

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Indeed I did.

Before the Hunley was raised, I created and hosted an online forum which included archæologists, engineers & historians on the Hunley team. It was we who first determined that the torpedo was deployed on a 18 foot metal pipe from the bottom of the bow, pivoted vertically on a y-shaped yoke, and deployed at a downward angle of thirty (30) degrees for attack.

Summary "Slide" from the Forum...

In fact, our recommendations contributed to the "spar"'s being removed and raised before the Hunley was.

When I visited the Hunley in the Lasch Lab in Charleston in 2013, I learned that the torpedo had been bolted solidly to the spar -- so that the Hunley was only 16-18 feet from the explosion of the torpedo's 130 lbs of cannon powder.

Since then, I've determined analytically that it was Singer's torpedo design that was used, and I recently identified how the Singer "Lanyard-triggered" fuzes were readily converted to Contact-triggered function. (Bolting the torpedo to the spar necessitated Contact-triggered fuzing...)

Thanks for the ping! (I'm in general agreement with Rachel Lance, but my analysis includes physiological factors that she, apparently, didn't consider...)

Thanks for the ping!!!

TXnMA
  

[75thOVI]

Thank you very much sir! I’ve always said that the day I couldn’t learn something new was the day you could plant me.

[TXnMA]

"...the Freeper that posted the pictures last year had proof that the torpedo was permanently attached to the iron spar."

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I expect that I was "the FReeper who posted the pictures" to which you referred...

See my #34, on this thread...

TXnMA
  

[TXnMA]

135 pounds of cannon powder -- not "130"...

TXnMA
  

[MacNaughton]

Thanks for posting that image. I never thought to look at the bottom of the bow in that famous 1864 painting. Old ideas, even the false ones still hang on.

Example #1 - H.L. Hunley replica on the exterior grounds of the Charleston (SC) Museum.

Example #2 - H.L. Hunley replica at Battleship Park, Mobile, AL

[fieldmarshaldj]

*ping*

[rlmorel]

That is fascinating work, TXnMA. I envy you-the REAL contact with history is something that I occasionally only get touches of, and you were immersed in it.

LOL, two unintended references to “contact” and “immersion” there...:)