Waiting for teams to have "Garbage Can Night" when the Astros come to town.
Posted on 01/15/2020 2:47:45 PM PST by nickcarraway
As an Astros fan, my biggest regret is that we didn’t use our comparative advantage to win two World Series.
Baseball is dying as are other sports.
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Maybe baseball should outlaw signs.
MLB celebrated Bonds, McGuire, Sosa etc. who were obviously bulking up and crushing homeruns while the owners raked in the cash. Nothing done until much later with the HOF voters refusing to induct cheaters. Now, with evidence of massive cheating they slap the hands of the perps team management while the offending players skate. MLB resembles Ed McMahon’s wrestling more each day.
Waiting for teams to have "Garbage Can Night" when the Astros come to town.
“Major League Baseball was righting an obvious wrong.”
Leave it to ESPN to declare the BS.
Stealing signs has been around for over 100 years and everyone was doing it from little league, to the MLB, to international competitions.
And in knowing this, who are they going to punish for this fallacy? For the process to work, everyone that batted had to be aware of the signs that were stolen by sound. Further, and not less, someone was adding location with probably had signs so the batter would know the pitch and where. But the entire team would have been in the know and practicing it.
So Houston fires a coach and GM, then Boston fires their manager as he invented the system while at Houston, and this is supposed to end it and catch all that needed punishment? They are being forced to fall on their swords to con the public and let them think something is being done. It isn’t. And at the same time, a player at Houston during the use of the cheating was hired as a manager in New York and is rumored to be stepping down because of the scandal.
The entire Houston staff and players were dirty. This is no different than the Black Sox scandal a century ago. But don’t worry...in rides the media with their BS and will protect the league. And this time, they have no one like Ruth to bail them out on the field. About time these overpaid children were forced to step up and reap what you sow, or as it is written, from the New Testament of the Bible, Galatians 6:7, for whatever a man sows, this he will also reap.
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Has Mike Fiers given up his championship ring or is he like John FTA Kerry bitching and moaning about the US military but fake-throwing his medals away?
No. Some players did not go to the White House (Correa, Beltran and bench coach Alex Cora - all Puerto Ricans), but they did not voice anti-Trump sentiment publicly (Cora and Beltran may have).
There is more to this than the punishments, IMO. I am a long time Astros fan in the Houston area and I feel they have disgraced their fans. The stain of ignominy is worse than some fine or suspension. I doubt I will be watching much baseball going forward. Maybe MLB is more worried that the Astros franchise could be a lost cause after this?
The one thing I’d got to say is that George Springer (of the Astros) is one great hitter. He and Matt Barnes (of the Red Sox) were teammates on the UConn baseball team. Go Huskies...
“Everyone involved must receive a lifetime ban. That includes Crane and every coach and every player who received the message or transmitted the message. “
Pete Rose bets on his team and gets a lifetime ban. These SOBs steal a World Series and get a fine and a temp suspension.
signs are not meant to be public. The catcher goes to great lengths to cover the side view with his knees and mitt. The signs given by the manager isn the dugout and the base coaches are not intended to be obvious and are changed periodically.
SNOWFLAKES RULE!!
This ruling makes lipreading, watching the pitcher, and sneak plays all illegal, just like a pitcher balking.
We have now learned that signs are privileged communications.
All the players apparently made a deal and got off. It's probably a players union thing.
Just knowing if it’s going to be some breaking ball, or a fastball is an ENORMOUS advantage. And YES it could mean the difference of making the playoffs, or even winning a World Series.
It’s filthy.
Stealing Catchers signs has been forbidden forever.
This mess occurred under Manfred’s watch. He has to go.
LOL!!!
Even if a runner on second base who can see the catcher’s sign signals to the batter?
I think the issue is that a team uses technology that the other team doesn’t have at their disposal.
Whereas, both teams have equal ability to steal signs by not using electronic technology.
Look at those play cards they use in football. Both teams can see those signs. It’s just a matter of the other team possessing the knowledge to interpret those signs. But if they’ve analyzed game film and have “cracked the code”, that’s on the other team for making it “crackable”. But they aren’t employing any technology that isn’t equally available to the other team.
Any owner complaining about the fine is stupid. The contracts that hold the sport together (which the owners ALL signed) declare the max possible fine to be $5 mil. If they think that’s too small FIX THE CONTRACT.
And the bottom line is MLB has warned teams explicitly for years about doing this very thing.
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