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Hypertension: Is It Time to Replace Drugs With Nutrition and Nutraceuticals?
Pharmacy and Therapeutics Journal ^ | April 2014 | Walter Alexander

Posted on 01/09/2020 6:20:28 AM PST by ConservativeMind

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To: ConservativeMind
Humans are so complex and individualized the best approach is “whatever works for you”.

A good lifestyle and diet are vitally important. But that alone isn't’t going to do it for SOME people with certain problems, injuries or genes.

I was fortunate enough to have zero prescriptions to age 60, but I have a few (low dose) ones now.

21 posted on 01/09/2020 7:01:53 AM PST by jdsteel (Americans are Dreamers too!!!)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

Yes, it is.

I get it from time to time, but I would not say that it is persistent.

The drug keeps my pressure perfect too, and has done so for 10 years.


22 posted on 01/09/2020 7:04:48 AM PST by chris37 (Where's Hunter?)
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To: ecomcon

“Nutraceuticals”, “Ketogenic”

Two new words for me.


23 posted on 01/09/2020 7:15:49 AM PST by cymbeline
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To: ConservativeMind

Exercise...., OVERRATED!


24 posted on 01/09/2020 7:16:22 AM PST by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder; chris37

The angiotensin-receptor blockers (ARBs) act on a similar basis but have fewer side effects. They are the enhanced alternative to ACE Inhibitors.

You may not have any coughing with them.


25 posted on 01/09/2020 7:23:32 AM PST by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: LeonardFMason

I’ve taken diovan for 10 years. I’m off it now. Why?

My blood pressure was 155/105 when it was prescribed. With diet (intermittent fasting with a keto-ish food selection), a Vitamin K supplement (500 micrograms/day - about what one gets from a serving of spinach, except I hate spinach) and restricting my caffeine intake to 6AM-Noon, my blood pressure is now 120/80. Without medication. Sometimes dropping a little below that.

I have no complaints about diovan. I didn’t experience side effects and it reduced my blood pressure down to 135/90. But diet changes have brought it lower than diovan did.

Note: “There have been no adverse effects of vitamin K seen with the levels found in food or supplements. However, this does not rule out danger with high dose. Researchers have not set a maximum safe dose.”

https://www.webmd.com/vitamins-and-supplements/supplement-guide-vitamin-k#1

I doubt supplementing to a dose found in a serving of cooked spinach will prove harmful.


26 posted on 01/09/2020 7:29:21 AM PST by Mr Rogers (Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools)
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To: ConservativeMind

Bkmrk for later.


27 posted on 01/09/2020 7:31:50 AM PST by matthew fuller (America's Dark Age-2009-2016.)
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To: TheNext

“So many patients buy into snake oil drugs”

Funny that you say that. If I remember correctly it is derived from snake venom, lol. I had the same dry cough, quit that stupidity. My BP is normal for the most part. Just going to the VA raises my BP though, never seen a bunch so lacking in critical thinking skills. I now take Garlic bulb, Olive leaf, or Hawthorn Berries for the problem from time to time. Trying to be a happy person helps, lol.
https://www.askapatient.com/viewrating.asp?drug=76180&name=LISINOPRIL


28 posted on 01/09/2020 7:35:06 AM PST by OftheOhio (never could dance but always could kata - Romeo company)
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To: ConservativeMind

With singers like Lizzo being celebrated, and fitness guru Jillian Michaels being slammed for “fat-shaming” Lizzo, I’m sure diet and exercise will happen. /s


29 posted on 01/09/2020 7:36:32 AM PST by Sans-Culotte (With every passing day, I am a little bit gladder that Romney lost in 2012.)
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To: ConservativeMind
Anything to get off the meds. I don't have hypertension but I do have an inactive thyroid, so I'm on Levothyroxine.

What irritates me is things like hypertension and under- and over- active thyroids must be treated for the rest of your life, but a prescription is only good for one year. No money to pay a doctor's office visit? No drugs for you. Yes, it happened to me about 20 years ago.

I'd go for the diet before having to take a drug.

30 posted on 01/09/2020 7:41:38 AM PST by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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No. Part A is free. Part B is charged to you or deducted from your SS benefits, depending on your gross income.

This is according to the government Medicare website...

31 posted on 01/09/2020 7:52:20 AM PST by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: jeffc

Sorry. Got them backwards.


32 posted on 01/09/2020 8:02:17 AM PST by cuban leaf (The political war playing out in every country now: Globalists vs Nationalists)
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To: TheNext

Running won’t *prevent* heart attacks. Ask Jim Fixx, author of the best seller “The Complete Book of Running”.

Oh, wait. You can’t. He keeled over dead of a heart attack.

At 52.

While jogging.

Not that you’re completely incorrect, but when God calls you, you’re gonna go.


33 posted on 01/09/2020 8:02:40 AM PST by biggerten (Love you, Mom.)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

Had that same issue, so did my wife. We both got switched to an ARB. Problem solved.


34 posted on 01/09/2020 8:30:31 AM PST by redangus
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

“Lisinopril is what I take and it appears to be having a decent effect. However I do not like the extreme hacking cough that it produces. This is a known side effect.”

I have that symptom and did not see it listed as a side effect. I’ll do some more research. Thanks!


35 posted on 01/09/2020 8:34:46 AM PST by CrazyIvan (The Democrat party. A collaboration of Cloward-Piven and Dunning-Kruger.)
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To: CrazyIvan

The coughing should be (no, *IS*) listed prominently in the paper(s) you get with the pills....maybe not on “routine just hand you the bottle” refills.... The pharmacist also verbally warned me. It concerns me because the coughing is so deep I feel like I’m gonna have a cerebral hemorrhage at times.

My brother had the same side effect and discontinued that Rx. I am not sure what he replaced it with. (He told me but I suck at recalling these convoluted drug names)


36 posted on 01/09/2020 8:43:51 AM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder (Apoplectic is where we want them)
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To: ConservativeMind

I monitor my blood pressure at home with a $300 machine - not a $40 one. I am rarely over my age specs. I have had my BP taken hundreds of times by “professionals”. I am often have high readings at the Doctors office. Out of those hundreds of times I have only had it taken per the recommended procedure ONCE the first time. I have to insist that they follow the spec.

https://www.health.harvard.edu/heart-health/tips-to-measure-your-blood-pressure-correctly

Also I have found a wide variation of readings from the automatic machines at the Dr’s office. I always check them for a current calibration sticker. It should of been calibrated within a year. This is a big problem at independent Dr’s offices.

Don’t automatically assume that your BP is high because your Dr said so. Get checked out at another facility or buy a good machine and monitor it at home. Every decent machine manufacturer will calibrate their machines for you usually for a small fee. The manual cuff use requires some skill to get correct readings. Many young health care professionals do not come with that skill set.

Learn to breath in nose and out mouth while the test is being conducted - long and slow.

Arrive at the Dr’s office at least 15 minutes early and try to relax before being called in.

Schedule Dr’s appoints at your least stressful time of the day.

ymmv


37 posted on 01/09/2020 8:54:05 AM PST by mad_as_he$$
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To: biggerten
Jim Fixx was not a jogger. He was a marathon runner.
Sick Fixx was discussed ad nauseum.

Dismissiveness.

Nobody says you must live healthy. But do not expect miracles when family hoped you would live longer.

A few of us have followed the literature for decades.
We know from your first sentence, whether you choose to live long & healthy, or choose to go quickly in hospitals.

Life is work. Work hard to educate yourself.

Otherwise, be dismissive. Take your chances. Family will adjust.

38 posted on 01/09/2020 11:39:58 AM PST by TheNext (Universal Skeptic)
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To: Tucker39

Ping.


39 posted on 01/09/2020 12:24:22 PM PST by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: DIRTYSECRET
You dont have to argue with the juicy ribeye if you use grass fed beef, increase veggies, eliminate carbs. Lisinopril only reduces high bp but not all heart attacks are caused by high blood pressure. If you change to a keto diet and be strict about it, you increase your chances for better health. A doctor once told me that there ate 15 hundred miles of blood vessels required to bourish one pound of fat. So for every pound of excess weight, there's additional load on the heart. Add narrowed vessels to the equation and the stress is massive. I am back on a keto diet and feeling better already...its only been a couple of weeks. The excess weight is sliding off on its own. Energy levels are a bit better, too. And i have a beautifyl sirloin in the freezer callinf my name 🥂
40 posted on 01/09/2020 1:22:24 PM PST by PrairieLady2
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