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1 posted on 12/26/2019 10:01:53 AM PST by Red Badger
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Ping!...................


2 posted on 12/26/2019 10:02:23 AM PST by Red Badger (Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain.......... ..)
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To: Red Badger

You know, it is hard to believe that memory is perishable and can wear out, but it is...


3 posted on 12/26/2019 10:06:15 AM PST by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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I remember investigating ferroelectrics for this sort of thing about 30 years ago or so. Maybe now it’s ready for prime time.


7 posted on 12/26/2019 10:17:21 AM PST by rightwingcrazy (;-,)
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To: Red Badger

Five Russians in a German lab...

What a mix of social, educational, political, and scientific implications and outcomes.


8 posted on 12/26/2019 10:19:53 AM PST by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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The team employed a technique known as high-energy X-ray photoemission spectroscopy. The specialized methodology developed at MIPT relies on the so-called standing-wave mode of the powerful monochromatic X-ray beam, which requires a synchrotron light source to produce.

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Now they need to find out how to fit one of those in a phone.


11 posted on 12/26/2019 10:25:30 AM PST by Moonman62 (Charity comes from wealth, or producing more than we consume.)
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To: Red Badger

Sounds like it might be EMP-proof.


13 posted on 12/26/2019 10:29:09 AM PST by samtheman (U.S. out of the U.N. --- U.N. out of the U.S.)
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“A further advantage of ferroelectric memory devices is that external radiation has absolutely no effect on them, unlike their semiconductor-based analogues. This means that the flash-like memory of the future could even weather cosmic ray exposure and operate in outer space.“

Which also would make it interesting to the military, rad hard, probably EMP resistant.


21 posted on 12/26/2019 11:32:15 AM PST by The Antiyuppie (“When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day”)
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Technology has come such a long way since I cut my teeth on "core memory" used in mid range computers that put the man on the moon.

128 bits (carbon do-nuts) on a 4"x 4" frame. Each bit was a carbon do-nut with a positive wire going in one direction to set it to "1" and another wire that passed the opposite direction to set it to "0". These layers were part of a bigger assembly that totaled 1280 bits of memory. The entire assembly took up 2 square feet of space with all the cooling fans attached.

Now you can get terabytes on a device the size of your finger.

22 posted on 12/26/2019 11:53:25 AM PST by eartick (Stupidity is expecting the government that broke itself to go out and fix itself. Texan for TEXIT!)
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To: Red Badger

My go to non-volatile memory is ink on paper.


34 posted on 12/26/2019 1:27:26 PM PST by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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All depends on how the process can be scaled in a practical fashion.

COSTING 1000X as much for very high re-writable repetition counts not actually needed by 98% of the market gets you little

Other MAJOR factors like practical environmental limits to data stability come into play.

My usual engineering response : Sounds promising, but PLEASE let us know when you actually are able to make it work as a consumer good.


37 posted on 12/26/2019 1:39:59 PM PST by elbook
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A good method for measuring the effects, but a company building FeFET based on HfO2 was established in 2016 https://ferroelectric-memory.com/technology/one-transistor-fefet-memory/


50 posted on 12/26/2019 3:39:11 PM PST by AdmSmith (GCTGATATGTCTATGATTACTCAT)
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