Posted on 12/22/2019 4:23:47 AM PST by Bull Snipe
“One of the consequences of *loosing* a war.”
One of the consequences of sleeping through English class.
The North had a General Herman Haupt. The South had no one of such capability and skills.
Fake history. Imports were taxed. Wealthy Southern slaveowners thought that because their plantations produced a large share of the country's exports that they were paying all those taxes, but it doesn't work that way. Apple, Microsoft and Disney are responsible for a lot of our exports, but when you buy a product from overseas, you pay the tax, not them.
The tax was never repealed.
Taxes get repealed by blood or poverty.
Tariffs in the 19th century went up and down, depending on which party was in power. Taxes on imports changed over time but weren't completely abolished because they were one of the main ways government paid for itself.
“Your reference was to men freeing themselves from a king.”
I suppose a case could be made the rebels of 1776 didn’t like the concept of a king, but I like the way they styled their fight for disunion better: “A Price whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people.”
The rebels were fighting against what they saw as tyranny. For some reason they believed “. . . Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed . . .”
“A Price whose character . . .”
Should read, “A Prince whose character . . .”
Hope Sherman is burning in hell
“Long live Gen. Sherman.”
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Please tell me you are kidding. The dude was a fiend, a war criminal. May he burn in hell.
Long live Gen. Sherman.
In hell.
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Yes, may Sherman burn in hell.
The rumor was that Sherman spared Savannah because it was so beautiful.
So you DO understand the difference between the war of independence and the civil war.
Good.
along side of Jefferson Davis, Lee, Bragg, Jackson, the list is so long.
“So you DO understand the difference between the war of independence and the civil war.”
Implied previously, now stated for emphasis: Lincoln’s War was not a civil war.
If he is then jeff davis is right there with him - shining Sherman's boots.
Gen. Sherman was a great man. The South wanted to expand slavery into the new territories and keep it forever. They also wanted to break away any time they didn’t like the results of an election, which would have turned the USA into a bunch of squabbling little nations.
Those who promoted slavery may be burning in hell. Sherman may or may not be. But the South joined hands with the devil and needed to be beaten.
Tariff costs were added to the sales price of imports. Therefore, import buying consumers paid the tariffs. Most imports ended up being sold in the South. They were, in fact, ultimately paying the tariff taxes by buying imports.
Morrill tariff was about to double the tariffs.....big inflation for Southern yeoman farmers, and a primary reason for secession.
More importantly, who had the power to initiate war in April of 1861?
Lincoln was informed that since secession, tariff revenue had dropped substantially.
He then sent the Navy to Charleston and Pensacola to force compliance.
“Morrill tariff was about to double the tariffs.”
Had the Senators from the seceding Southern States remained in Congress, along with some of the Northern Democrat Senators, they would have been able to block the Morrill tariff legislation.
In 1860 Howell Cobb, the Secretary of Treasury, reported the U.S. Treasury had only 500,000 dollars. With several million dollars of debts to be paid, the U.S. was technically bankrupt. This was the impetus for the Morrill tariff legislation.
The population of the North in 1860 was 22 million. The population of the South was 9 million, including 3.5 million slaves. 5.5 million free people weren't going to outspend 22 million free people, especially if those 5.5 million were mostly rural and the 22 million lived together in cities. There was more industry in the North and business also imported machinery necessary for production. There were only so many crystal chandeliers and Paris gowns that plantation owners could buy. So no, most imports weren't sold in the South.
Why did not the South just build their own factories and be done with shipping their raw materials off to England to be processed into exports back to the south. ? !
Senator Louis T. Wigfall of Texas probably summed up the Southern attitude toward manufacturing and industrialization the best.
“We are a peculiar people, sir! You don’t understand us, and you can’t understand us, because we are known to you only by Northern writers and Northern papers, who know nothing of us themselves, or misrepresent what they do know. We are an agricultural people; we are a primitive but a civilized people. We have no cities—we don’t want them, have no literature—we don’t need any yet. We have no press—we are glad of it. We do not require a press, because we go out and discuss all public questions from the stump with our people. We have no commercial marine—no navy—we don’t want them. We are better without them. Your ships carry our produce, and you can protect your own vessels. We want no manufactures: we desire no trading, no mechanical or manufacturing classes. As long as we have our rice, our sugar, our tobacco, and our cotton, we can command wealth to purchase all we want from those nations with which we are in amity, and to lay up money besides.”
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