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Charles Blow Op-ed in the NY Times: The Horrible History of Thanksgiving
New York Times ^ | 11/25/2019 | Charles M. Blow

Posted on 12/04/2019 9:40:00 AM PST by SeekAndFind

When I was a child, Thanksgiving was simple. It was about turkey and dressing, love and laughter, a time for the family to gather around a feast and be thankful for the year that had passed and be hopeful for the year to come.

In school, the story we learned was simple, too: Pilgrims and Native Americans came together to give thanks.

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As Peter C. Mancall, a professor at the University of Southern California, wrote for CNN on Wednesday, Gov. William Bradford would say in his book “Of Plymouth Plantation,” which he began to write in 1630, that the Puritans had arrived in “a hideous and desolate wilderness, full of wild beasts and wild men.”

Mancall further explained that after the visits to the New World by Samuel de Champlain and Capt. John Smith in the early 1600s, “a terrible illness spread through the region” among the Native Americans. He continued: “Modern scholars have argued that indigenous communities were devastated by leptospirosis, a disease caused by Old World bacteria that had likely reached New England through the feces of rats that arrived on European ships.”

This weakening of the native population by disease from the new arrivals’ ships created an opening for the Pilgrims.

King James’s patent called this spread of disease “a wonderfull Plague” that might help to devastate and depopulate the region. Some friends.

But many of those native people not killed by disease would be killed by direct deed.

The celebration in 1621 did not mark a friendly turning point and did not become an annual event. Relations between the Wampanoag and the settlers deteriorated, leading to the Pequot War. In 1637, in retaliation for the murder of a man the settlers believed the Wampanoags killed, they burned a nearby village, killing as many as 500

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1 posted on 12/04/2019 9:40:00 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Dude is one sick puppy.


2 posted on 12/04/2019 9:41:54 AM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire. Or both.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Gee Charles, sounds like the friendly and innocent native Americans probably wished they had strict border controls, sufficient border police, and strong management over what diseases were allowed into “their” country from waves of uninvited foreigners.


3 posted on 12/04/2019 9:48:17 AM PST by PGR88
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To: SeekAndFind

1) history is full of sad stories. Where you going to do about it?
2) The USA wasn’t around in 1620. If you want to complain about some evil country, go write a letter to the Queen of England.
3) If your beef isn’t with England then I guess you are just upset with White people? Don’t be a racist. Don’t perpetuate the hate. How are you helping?


4 posted on 12/04/2019 9:48:29 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (If White Privilege is real, why did Elizabeth Warren lie about being an Indian?)
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To: BenLurkin
Squint, grow a beard, appear wise.


5 posted on 12/04/2019 9:48:59 AM PST by Daffynition (*I'm living the dream.* & :))
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To: SeekAndFind

Is there any holiday or celebration, which the left has not criticized or maligned in some way?

Is the left still ok with Martin Luther King day?

Any others they are ok with? White liberals still love Kwanzaa, don’t they?

Maybe New year’s day is ok? Although the liberals no longer use “BC” or “AD”, to denote the year.


6 posted on 12/04/2019 9:49:52 AM PST by Dilbert San Diego
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To: PGR88; Army Air Corps; MeganC; Sarah Barracuda
Gee Charles, sounds like the friendly and innocent native Americans probably wished they had strict border controls, sufficient border police, and strong management over what diseases were allowed into “their” country from waves of uninvited foreigners.

+1

7 posted on 12/04/2019 9:58:09 AM PST by KC_Lion
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To: SeekAndFind

This is total b*llsh*t. I don’t read the NYT so won’t look at the rest, but the real history is best told in the Philbrick book on the Mayflower.

Here’s another good source:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a33Fuz8wKDA

(Prager U video).


8 posted on 12/04/2019 9:59:30 AM PST by kaehurowing
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To: ClearCase_guy

> history is full of sad stories <

White settlers killed Indians. And Indians killed white settlers. And yes, Indians killed other Indians, in great numbers. So it’s an error to just say “The white man was bad.” The correct statement is “Everyone was bad.”

But of course that last statement is not politically correct. So better not mention it.


9 posted on 12/04/2019 10:03:34 AM PST by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: SeekAndFind
When I was a child…

Still is.

10 posted on 12/04/2019 10:05:23 AM PST by windsorknot
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To: SeekAndFind

Blow blows.


11 posted on 12/04/2019 10:08:23 AM PST by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: SeekAndFind

A follower, by choice or unknowingly, of the Howard Zinn and American Communist Party line of “hate America” history.


12 posted on 12/04/2019 10:08:45 AM PST by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: SeekAndFind

So the fag doesn’t like Thanksgiving. Who cares? He is still a small-minded nobody with limited intelligence given a platform by the failing New York Times. His presence there is another nail in the coffin of the Times.


13 posted on 12/04/2019 10:12:47 AM PST by WashingtonSource
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To: SeekAndFind

why are so many faggots so miserable?


14 posted on 12/04/2019 10:18:02 AM PST by montag813
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To: SeekAndFind

The sinister part of the whole “genocide by disease” theory is that it was a willfull act, universally, on the part of the colonists to North America.

That’s like saying it is a willful act that you get some stomach issue drinking water in some foreign land, water that does not bother the people who live there.

On the other hand, a written langauge, education spread by writen langauge, methods using science and discovery by science, applied in all kinds of fields, and even manufacturing such as it was the in 1600s were all hallmarks of a more successful culture not bound by subsistence on merely what nature was willing to provide. The colonists had nothing to apologize for as to any of that, nor do we need to apologize that they brought those things to North America.

Treaties were broken, yes. And that was wrong. Yet I doubt even that was the greatest thing that spelled the difference between success and failure of native American culture and the culture European colonists brought with them.

As to slavery, it existed among some Native Americans in North America before the colonists, and before some colonosts adopted their own version of it.


15 posted on 12/04/2019 10:21:26 AM PST by Wuli
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To: SeekAndFind

We got the disease from the Chinese. Killed off a lot of us, too.


16 posted on 12/04/2019 10:25:20 AM PST by Redmen4ever (u)
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To: SeekAndFind

A pro-America holiday with religious overtones is not likely to be treated kindly by the America-hating secularists at the Slimes.


17 posted on 12/04/2019 10:36:34 AM PST by IronJack
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To: Redmen4ever

What disease was that?


18 posted on 12/04/2019 10:37:25 AM PST by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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To: Leaning Right

Having the second best military technology, in any fight, usually sucks.

There has not, to my knowledge, been a single instance where the more advanced civilization didn’t utterly depredate and essentially annihilate a more primitive one when the two have come in contact.


19 posted on 12/04/2019 10:43:07 AM PST by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca. Deport all illegals. Abolish the DEA, IRS and ATF,.)
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To: SeekAndFind
When I was a child, Thanksgiving was simple. It was about turkey and dressing, love and laughter, a time for the family to gather around a feast and be thankful for the year

The author blew it in the first paragraph. It should read:

"When I was a child, Thanksgiving was simple. It was about turkey and dressing, love and laughter, a time for the family to gather around a feast and be thankful TO GOD for the year . . "

20 posted on 12/04/2019 10:55:49 AM PST by aimhigh (THIS is His commandment . . . . 1 John 3:23)
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