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IBM, Microsoft and Linux Foundation link arms to fight patent trolls with 'multimillion' scheme
The Register ^ | Nov 20, 2019 | Tim Anderson

Posted on 11/20/2019 5:30:57 AM PST by dayglored

Linux was a 'cancer' but Microsoft is now defending it

IBM, Microsoft and the Linux Foundation have partnered with the Open Invention Network (OIN), a company formed to protect Linux from patent threats, to take on "Patent Assertion Entities", also known as patent trolls.

Specifically, the group will help fund the Open Source Zone of Unified Patents, an organisation which provides legal services to deter "unsubstantiated or invalid patent assertions".

The move had already been flagged at the Open Source Summit in Lyon last month, but the identity of the participating companies was not then known. OIN CEO Keith Bergelt spoke to The Register about the announcement. Although we have had a Linux-friendly Microsoft for a few years now, Bergelt, a veteran of patent battles against Microsoft, is by the sound of it still coming to terms with how things have changed.

"It was historic and very important and symbolic for IBM and Microsoft to work together to support freedom of action in open source. Microsoft for several years had been one of the most significant threats to open source," he told us.

There is currently a high-profile patent case against the Gnome Foundation, but Bergelt said this was not the reason for the pivot towards taking on parent trolls.

"Gnome is just a further reinforcement of the fact the threat exists. It wasn't a motivating factor, this has been in the works for a year and very directly for five months. These things take time to put together," he said.

Bergelt added that defending against patent trolls is not an altogether new thing. "This is a more explicit pivot for OIN but out of $105m that we've expended on the acquisition of patents, 15 per cent of the $105m has been spent on purchasing patents that were otherwise meant for trolls, or may be used by trolls," he said.

OIN will support the legal efforts of organisations defending low-quality patent claims, including in some cases financial support. "We need to make sure that everybody is protected and well supported regardless of their financial position," he said, "because we are all negatively affected by a failure to properly defend."

It is not always possible to fight patent claims on the basis of prior art or other evidence of low quality, he said. "There are some patents that we look at and think, if they've already been tested through a pretty solid IPR (Inter Partes Review), that there may be other ways we have to deal with the issue."

"We're in contact with RPX and AST and other communities that are concerned about troll risk, and we are prepared to work in combination with them to syndicate capital to be able to make larger acquisitions that don’t necessarily lend themselves to being solved by the solutions that Unified offers. We're prepared to act in concert with others to solve patent risks," concluded Bergelt. ®


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet; Hobbies
KEYWORDS: computers; computing; ibm; linux; microsoft; patents; patenttrolls; trolls; windowspinglist
Will wonders never cease!
1 posted on 11/20/2019 5:30:57 AM PST by dayglored
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To: Abby4116; afraidfortherepublic; aft_lizard; AF_Blue; AppyPappy; arnoldc1; ATOMIC_PUNK; bajabaja; ...
Microsoft loves Linux, Hates Trolls ... PING!

You can find all the Windows Ping list threads with FR search: just search on keyword "windowspinglist".

2 posted on 11/20/2019 5:31:40 AM PST by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government."`)
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To: ShadowAce

Possible Tech Ping?


3 posted on 11/20/2019 5:32:28 AM PST by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government."`)
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To: rdb3; Calvinist_Dark_Lord; JosephW; Only1choice____Freedom; martin_fierro; Still Thinking; ...

Tech Ping


4 posted on 11/20/2019 5:39:52 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux - The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: dayglored; ShadowAce

Ok guys, I need some help fully understanding exactly what this is implying here? Good or bad? lol


5 posted on 11/20/2019 5:46:09 AM PST by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: Openurmind; dayglored
Personally, I think it's just a giant head-fake.

MS belongs to the Linux Foundation, and OIN has not been very pro-FOSS for a while now. Now they are all supposed to prevent MS-backed patent trolls from succeeding?

Color me doubtful.

6 posted on 11/20/2019 5:55:22 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux - The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: Openurmind
Good or bad? Not sure. I need to look into this more and get more details. When it comes to Linux I'm generally suspicious of the motives of commercial companies. They're out to make a profit, got that, bravo. However that's not always the best thing for Linux and the user community.

Right, wrong, or otherwise I don't generally trust Microsoft's motives nor business practices in general, and particularly in regards to Linux. IBM I'm only slightly less suspicious of.

7 posted on 11/20/2019 5:58:17 AM PST by ThunderSleeps ( Be ready!)
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To: ThunderSleeps; ShadowAce

“Right, wrong, or otherwise I don’t generally trust Microsoft’s motives nor business practices in general, and particularly in regards to Linux.”

Same here, if they think they can steal it and make it theirs they would indeed try. The thing I am having trouble understanding though is the Gnome connection in this.

Thank you both for the replies... :)


8 posted on 11/20/2019 6:04:54 AM PST by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: dayglored

Bush 41, 43 and Clinton could have addressed this in the 90’s
Intel asked the Fed to do something.
Guess they didn’t make a big enough donation.


9 posted on 11/20/2019 6:14:35 AM PST by Zathras
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To: dayglored

Only the big players are allowed to have patents.


10 posted on 11/20/2019 7:22:38 AM PST by Born to Conserve
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To: Openurmind

GNOME files defense against patent troll https://www.gnome.org/news/2019/10/gnome-files-defense-against-patent-troll/


11 posted on 11/20/2019 7:32:20 AM PST by daniel1212 ( Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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To: daniel1212

Thank you!


12 posted on 11/20/2019 7:44:32 AM PST by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: ShadowAce
"If Microsoft ever does applications for Linux it means I've won." -Linus Torvalds
13 posted on 11/20/2019 3:21:56 PM PST by rdb3 (Gilmour, WRIGHT, Waters, Mason)
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To: Openurmind

Meh, if gnome gets tangled up no real issue for me - I like KDE better. :-O. Well xfce isn’t bad either.... Seriously though, I don’t get the gnome thing .Maybe they are running afoul of some stupid patent. I really don’t want to see a bad precedent set. Unscrupulous companies with trash patents shaking down the FOSS community.


14 posted on 11/20/2019 3:39:29 PM PST by ThunderSleeps ( Be ready!)
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To: ThunderSleeps

“I really don’t want to see a bad precedent set. Unscrupulous companies with trash patents shaking down the FOSS community.”

And from what I read that is exactly why Gnome has decided to fight it. It would be a precedent to start allowing these folks to start doing this with FOSS and it needs to be nipped in the bud before they do it to all open source.


15 posted on 11/20/2019 3:57:00 PM PST by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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