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Editorial: The Unspoken Messages in NTSB's Miami Bridge Collapse Report
The Engineering News-Record ^ | November 12, 2019 | ENR Editors

Posted on 11/15/2019 12:40:43 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

The last time the National Transportation Safety Board came down hard on engineering and construction was in 2007.

That year, the board delivered reports on the collapse of the I-35 Highway Bridge in Minneapolis that killed 13 people, and on a ceiling collapse in a Boston Central Artery tunnel that killed one motorist.

Both involved completed structures. With its final investigation findings, the board also made recommendations for new standards and procedures and quality control.

NTSB's report on last year’s Miami bridge collapse at Florida International University in mid-construction, which killed five motorists and one construction worker, has similar recommendations. But it also has stinging criticism of the structural engineer and of the performance of the construction team as a whole.

Of the many investigations the board has performed, chairman Robert Sumwalt pointed out, none has had as much finger-pointing.

Magnum Construction Management and its subcontractor on a design-build contract, FIGG Bridge Engineers, each accuse the other of making the fatal errors.

Once cracks grew significant, one might assume that on this singular project and design there would be a cohesive and effective crisis response.

What happened instead was passivity and deference to engineer FIGG, which failed to recognize the emergency.

(Excerpt) Read more at enr.com ...


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KEYWORDS: boltonperez; bridgecollapse; complacency; construction; deaths; engineering; fdot; figgbridge; fingerpointing; fiu; florida; infrastructure; investigating; magnum; miami; ntsb; transportation
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1 posted on 11/15/2019 12:40:43 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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To: BobL; sphinx; GreenLanternCorps; Publius

PING.


2 posted on 11/15/2019 12:42:56 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Show me the people who own the land, the guns and the money, and I'll show you the people in charge.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

If I am not mistaken, the entire engineering team was female. Am I correct about that? That is what was reported during the follow-up to the collapse.


3 posted on 11/15/2019 12:53:41 PM PST by spel_grammer_an_punct_polise
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I saw an article that the design engineers responsible for the Miami collapse were all womyn. I saved the link; but it’s been scrubbed from the web. Doesn’t fit the narrative. And ain’t I a woman? But when I cross a bridge or drive under a bridge, I want it to stand.


4 posted on 11/15/2019 12:54:30 PM PST by Albion Wilde (It is fatal to enter any war without the will to win it. --Douglas MacArthur)
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To: Albion Wilde

You are correct...and it was not their first awful failure....the website talks about bridges as art. Seriously. Someone should be looking at the contract award....


5 posted on 11/15/2019 12:59:37 PM PST by fuente (Liberty resides in three boxes: the ballot box, the jury box and the cartridge box--Fredrick Douglas)
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To: spel_grammer_an_punct_polise

My understanding also.


6 posted on 11/15/2019 1:06:36 PM PST by Balding_Eagle ( The Great Wall of Trump ---- 100% sealing of the border. Coming soon.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
NTSB said each member of the team had an “implied authority” to shut the road to all traffic or require reshoring—not spelled out in contracts but as tangible as the tons of concrete above the passing motorists. None acted on that authority.

IIRC The entire focus of this design and installation procedure was NOT TO IMPEDE TRAFFIC ON THE ROADWAY. Mid-span temporary support was vetoed because it might cause traffic flow problems.

And they need to ask why no one wanted to shut the road down?

7 posted on 11/15/2019 1:12:44 PM PST by DUMBGRUNT
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To: DUMBGRUNT

I am no engineer but spent a lot of time on construction projects...

Just looking at it..looked to me like it needed a beam down the middle for support..


8 posted on 11/15/2019 1:22:54 PM PST by Hojczyk
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To: spel_grammer_an_punct_polise

If so, it was probably a larger team, then: the usual number of collaborating members for the project itself, plus 2 or 3 others going around saying, “I’m here to talk if you need to.”


9 posted on 11/15/2019 1:24:55 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Show me the people who own the land, the guns and the money, and I'll show you the people in charge.)
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To: spel_grammer_an_punct_polise

The second comment at the site says the bridge engineer was from China, for what that’s worth...


10 posted on 11/15/2019 1:25:21 PM PST by bkopto
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To: Hojczyk

I’m not sure that putting a support in the median of the road would have impeded traffic. It’s a wide road.


11 posted on 11/15/2019 1:26:46 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Show me the people who own the land, the guns and the money, and I'll show you the people in charge.)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Safety takes over when a situation like this presents itself. In retrospect, the cost of the accident, the cost of the settlements, the cost to the company, none of these adds up to the concern over some people being late to their jobs because a road was closed.

So it gets back to ... what in h*ll were these people thinking?

Note, CSP in my tagline is for Certified Safety Professional (ret)


12 posted on 11/15/2019 1:29:15 PM PST by KC_for_Freedom (retired aerospace engineer and CSP who also taught)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Safety takes over when a situation like this presents itself. In retrospect, the cost of the accident, the cost of the settlements, the cost to the company, none of these adds up to the concern over some people being late to their jobs because a road was closed.

So it gets back to ... what in h*ll were these people thinking?

Note, CSP in my tagline is for Certified Safety Professional (ret)


13 posted on 11/15/2019 1:29:15 PM PST by KC_for_Freedom (retired aerospace engineer and CSP who also taught)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I meet a beam in the poured concrete structure...

It was on huge flat span of concrete...

Like in a parking garage..


14 posted on 11/15/2019 1:29:42 PM PST by Hojczyk
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To: Hojczyk

This analysis and identification of the forensic evidence is pretty good.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KtiTm2dKLgU


15 posted on 11/15/2019 1:32:58 PM PST by NativeSon ( Grease the floor with Crisco when I dance the disco)
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To: bkopto

“The second comment at the site says the bridge engineer was from China, for what that’s worth...”

There are more females in China than males so that it still could be true that the engineering crew was all females. ;-)


16 posted on 11/15/2019 1:44:34 PM PST by spel_grammer_an_punct_polise
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To: spel_grammer_an_punct_polise; Albion Wilde; fuente
False.


17 posted on 11/15/2019 1:48:10 PM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire. Or both.)
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To: spel_grammer_an_punct_polise; Albion Wilde; fuente

https://www.artba.org/foundation/hall-of-fame/full-inductee-list/w-denney-pate/


18 posted on 11/15/2019 1:49:00 PM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire. Or both.)
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To: Albion Wilde

https://www.ntsb.gov/news/events/Documents/2019-HWY18MH009-BMG-abstract.pdf


19 posted on 11/15/2019 1:54:05 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: spel_grammer_an_punct_polise
There are more females in China than males

According to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_sex_ratio

there are 1.06 men for every 1.0 women in China (total).

20 posted on 11/15/2019 1:58:34 PM PST by bkopto
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