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Disney+ Warns Users of Movies With "Outdated Cultural Depictions"
Bay News 9 ^ | 11/13/19 | Ashley Carter

Posted on 11/14/2019 5:46:51 AM PST by Enlightened1

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To: Enlightened1

I wouldn’t be surprised if soon they start adding those disclaimers to classic movies, as if people have to be told that.


21 posted on 11/14/2019 6:04:50 AM PST by rightwingintelligentsia (Democrats: The perfect party for the helpless and stupid, and those who would rule over them.)
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To: dangus

> It’s better than censorship. <

Right. At least Disney is not cutting out the “offensive” parts. But that will probably come later.


22 posted on 11/14/2019 6:05:03 AM PST by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: Bonemaker

They replaced her (re-animated) in at least one cartoon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1G20vPaAFM

http://secretvortex.com/tandj49.html

Spotlight: “Saturday Evenuing Puss”
With Tom, Jerry, Butch, Meathead, Shorty, Mammy Two-Shoes
STORY: While Mammy’s away, the cats will play. Jazz, that is.

Mammy Two-Shoes and her later replacement

I am spotlighting this short, a fine one, not because of its inherent goodness but because it brings up the subject of Tom and Jerry being edited and, in some cases, re-animated, for television. I found several versions of this short, and not a single one of them was the original 1950 release. Years after the initial release of the Tom and Jerry films, overly sensitive executives deemed Mammy Two-Shoes far too much of a racial stereotype to be seen on television, so they came with several solutions. I discuss all this elsewhere in a short piece about Mammy herself (love dat woman!), but in case you have come to this page through a search engine, I’ll go through it again. The first solution was to ask Chuck Jones to replace her with a newly animated white owner, a young blond in this film. Another later solution was to keep Mammy, but replace the original voice track with a new, more “correct” voice. As I say elsewhere - phooey! The first solution replaces a marvelously animated character with, my apologies to the great Chuck Jones, a dull one. The second solution shows a complete disregard for the hilarious energy and humor actress Lillian Randolph brought to the part of Mammy. And things got so mixed up in the process that you can even find versions of Tom and Jerry cartoons with the white woman speaking in Lillian Randolph’s voice!

Above is a comparison between Mammy and the Young Girl. Notice how much more rich detail there is not only in Mammy herself but in her personal belongings. I don’t really blame Chuck Jones for saving some time when redrawing the scene for television in the sixties. He was employed by MGM at the time, he was asked to do a job, he did it. I just wish he would have stood up for Mammy Two-Shoes.

I should relate some other things I noticed while watching several different versions of this film, including one dubbed into Japanese. There is a moment when Jerry comes out of his hole to complain to Tom about the raucous music the cats are playing. In what appears to be the closest to the original version, you can just barely make out Jerry’s voice. In another version, there is no voice and Jerry is suddenly doing a masterful bit of pantomime. In the Japanese version, he yells in Japanese. And all three versions work!

This is one of the few Tom and Jerry cartoons where you can see Mammy’s face, although you have to freeze-frame it just right to do so. Being a purist, I refuse to spoil things, so you’ll just have to do a search for yourself.

As for the short itself, it’s very musical. Tom and his friends play hot jazz, Jerry objects, everybody runs around like crazy people.... it’s a Tom and Jerry short, whattaya want?


23 posted on 11/14/2019 6:05:04 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Recall that unqualified Hillary Clinton sat on the board of Wal-Mart when Bill Clinton was governor)
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To: MV=PY

Lady and the Tramp or Dumbo needs that kind of parental guidance? Snap out of it.

I love Guardians of the Galaxy, but it’s directed by a likely pedophile and contains lots of “stereotypical” men hitting on women.

But Disney is going to tell people that Dumbo had bad messages? Yeah ok.


24 posted on 11/14/2019 6:05:05 AM PST by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant.2)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

When are they going to put this disclaimer on everything that has Robert Byrd (D-KKK)’s name on it?


25 posted on 11/14/2019 6:06:20 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Recall that unqualified Hillary Clinton sat on the board of Wal-Mart when Bill Clinton was governor)
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To: Enlightened1

Geez, just take the money and shut up, Disney.


26 posted on 11/14/2019 6:08:21 AM PST by simpson96
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To: Williams

This is actually a REVERSAL of policies to limit access to the movies.


27 posted on 11/14/2019 6:08:40 AM PST by dangus
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To: Enlightened1; All

I bought a DVD of Song of the South that was produced in Europe (played fine) and a bonus was a short not even done by Disney—Coal Black and de Sebben Dwarfs, one of the “Censored Eleven” considered insensitive now.
The blacks who made the film (musicians etc) and audiences had no problem with it at the time, supposedly.

Disney’s first black animator, Floyd Norman, says he does not find Song of the South offensive and he doesn’t consider Walt racist.

Found it interesting in Disney’s Zootopia (2016) when new bunny cop Judy Hopps is called cute by chubby cheetah dispatcher Clawhauser.

“Uh, you may not know this but it’s ok when a bunny calls another bunny cute but when somebody else does..”

“Oh!! I’m so sorry!”

I pictured that as a comment on “the N word is unacceptable but when blacks say it to another it’s a term of endearment.”


28 posted on 11/14/2019 6:10:09 AM PST by raccoonradio
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To: Williams

Guardians of the Galaxy was rated PG-13; these are G-rated movies with reputations for being innocent.


29 posted on 11/14/2019 6:10:09 AM PST by dangus
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To: Enlightened1

Like “Song of the South”?


30 posted on 11/14/2019 6:13:58 AM PST by struggle
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To: Enlightened1

Wonder what Disney is so scared of? Mebbe “culturally outdated” morality?


31 posted on 11/14/2019 6:16:06 AM PST by mo ("If you understand, no explanation is needed; if you don't understand, no explanation is possible")
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To: Enlightened1
Our parents and grandparents were not so PC.

Tokio Jokio

Warner Bros 1943.

32 posted on 11/14/2019 6:16:48 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Enlightened1

There have been several scenes removed from DAVY CROCKETT from when I saw it in 1955.

Davy’s first meeting with Thimblerig.
A scene inside the Alamo.


33 posted on 11/14/2019 6:25:12 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Enlightened1

Between Disney’s handling of Star Wars and decisions like this, I have never seen a company try so hard to turn away their customers.


34 posted on 11/14/2019 6:30:45 AM PST by Widget Jr
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To: Enlightened1
Disney has fallen for the pervasive LGBT and PC corporation crap. My wife and I have decided to not contribute to their immoral decisions by not take our grandkids to DisneyWorld again. They send the wrong message to young people.

If people can't get over themselves watching old Disney movies, it's not the "outdated cultural depictions" that are the problem.

It's the problem of people who are offended by everything they don't like in society.

And of the companies, like Disney, who grovel at the feet of the decadence in our society, instead of playing to the much larger portion of our culture who are not into the debauchery that Disney promotes.

The "ever-offended" I call them.

35 posted on 11/14/2019 6:30:57 AM PST by HotHunt (Been there. Done that.)
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To: Enlightened1

Cultural Genocide.


36 posted on 11/14/2019 6:32:07 AM PST by CIB-173RDABN (I am not an expert in anything, and my opinion is just that, an opinion. I may be wrong.)
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To: Enlightened1

Zip-a-Dee-Doo-Dah! They’re bringing back Uncle Remus and The Song of the South!!!!


37 posted on 11/14/2019 6:39:22 AM PST by null and void (Convicted spies are shot, traitors are hanged, saboteurs are subject to summary execution...)
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To: null and void

“One controversial film users won’t find on Disney+ is “Song of the South,” the 1946 film that has been criticized for its depictions of African Americans.”

dammit!


38 posted on 11/14/2019 6:41:09 AM PST by null and void (Convicted spies are shot, traitors are hanged, saboteurs are subject to summary execution...)
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To: Enlightened1
With THEIR idea of outdated cultural depictions.
39 posted on 11/14/2019 6:42:21 AM PST by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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To: circlecity

...Netflix programming is just awful now...
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We depend on streaming and watch about an hour a day.

Here’s a way to combat the crap: turn on something that is cultural propaganda. Mute the sound. Let it play out while you do something else out of the room. This establishes ‘engagement’. Come back later and give it one star (hated it).

They will drop those shows quickly if enough people do this.


40 posted on 11/14/2019 7:08:41 AM PST by reformedliberal
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