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Climate Change Could Make Russia Great Again
Haaretz ^ | 8 Nov 2019 | Jonathan Jacobson

Posted on 11/08/2019 10:15:55 AM PST by DUMBGRUNT

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Will the Ruskies come in from the cold?
1 posted on 11/08/2019 10:15:55 AM PST by DUMBGRUNT
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To: DUMBGRUNT

This is laughable.
What’s Russia got to sell ?


2 posted on 11/08/2019 10:27:14 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Baseball players, gangsters and musicians are remembered. But journalists are forgotten.)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

No wonder Trump wants to buy Greenland!.................So did Wilson and Truman...................


3 posted on 11/08/2019 10:27:59 AM PST by Red Badger (Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain...................)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Oil, diamonds, Chromium, nesting dolls......................


4 posted on 11/08/2019 10:28:37 AM PST by Red Badger (Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain...................)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Cold is no longer an issue for farming with the russians. When the EU banned food exports to Russia back in 2012—the Russians imported high tech north latitude green houses from the dutch. They expect to be exporters of vegetables by the early 2020’s. They currently have greenhouses within the arctic circle. The greenhouses can grow 10 times the number of vegetables on an acre of land that an open air farmland can produce.

same thing is going in north america. I buy my tomatoes from canada which is the second largest exporter of vegetables to the USA after mexico. the vegetables come from greenhouses. there are lots of green houses too in alaska.


5 posted on 11/08/2019 10:33:23 AM PST by ckilmer
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
Re> What’s Russia got to sell ?

Russia is extremely rich in a lot of rare valuable minerals. We couldn't build a jet fighter without many if the.

6 posted on 11/08/2019 10:43:53 AM PST by IC Ken (Stop making stupid people famous)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

What’s Russia got to sell ?

Whatever they have, they may find more of it when the snow melts.
Need any slightly used mastodon parts, fresh frozen?


7 posted on 11/08/2019 10:45:54 AM PST by DUMBGRUNT
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Cold is no longer an issue for farming with the russians.

Good stuff!!!

“Greenhouses that could benefit from this technology are springing up throughout the Arctic: The Japanese company JGC Evergreen produces 1,000 tons of cucumbers and tomatoes in Siberia”
“Modular Farms, an Ontario-based greenhouse company, has developed 400-square-foot containers that can produce thousands of hydroponically grown leafy greens”
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/wired-greenhouse-tech-could-help-arctic-communities-bloom-with-bounty/


8 posted on 11/08/2019 10:57:20 AM PST by DUMBGRUNT
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To: Red Badger

Trump says he’s considering attending Russia’s May Day parade

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/469591-trump-says-hes-considering-attending-russias-may-day-parade

And now you know why!


9 posted on 11/08/2019 11:00:01 AM PST by DUMBGRUNT
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To: ckilmer

Hothouse tomatoes? Mealy and flavorless. No thanks.


10 posted on 11/08/2019 11:09:43 AM PST by I-ambush (One foot in the grave, one foot on the pedal I was born to rebel.)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Most likely will make Russia under a glacier again!


11 posted on 11/08/2019 11:09:54 AM PST by Reily
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Most likely will make Russia under a glacier again!

That was covered by global cooling, back in the 1970’s.

Some fads just cycle in and out?

I have my Rubrics cube oiled up and ready to go!
If only I can remember where I put it?


12 posted on 11/08/2019 11:35:17 AM PST by DUMBGRUNT
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To: DUMBGRUNT

You think the last major glaciation was the last glaciation? There will never be another one?


13 posted on 11/08/2019 11:38:44 AM PST by Reily
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The poor hapless California farmers have a place to immigrate to now that the Commie’s have run Cali into the ground. Ironic huh?


14 posted on 11/08/2019 11:43:07 AM PST by Colt1851Navy (What was wrong with Nixon?)
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The geologic period we are in is the Quaternary

The Quaternary Period is typically defined by the cyclic growth and decay of continental ice sheets associated with Milankovitch cycles and the associated climate and environmental changes that occurred.

Cyclic growth & decay!

Someday they’re coming back. I actually think there is more physical evidence for this then anything warming. Let’s hope it’s just something like the Mini-Ice Age (from about 1300to about 1850). It came after the Medieval Warming Period (Something Mann & crowd tried to ignore!). However it could be a hug your Mammoth style ice age. Ya never know!

But it will return!


15 posted on 11/08/2019 11:52:08 AM PST by Reily
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Arctic and subarctic greenhouses in asia and north america will roughly double the amount arable farmland in the world and increase food capacity by 10 times.

There’s more.

Another kind of greenhouse is being adapted for desert regions.. They’re gaining increasing popularity because they use 95% less water than open air farming. These greenhouses use desalinated water—which is expensive —because the greenhouses sip water—they are economic. There’s a growing greenhouse industry in australia and the gulf states and a big desalination greenhouses in place in southern spain as well. Another feature of these green houses is that unlike the northern latitude greenhouses which hold in heat—desert greenhouses have ingenious ways of dispelling heat.

About a third of the worlds lands are deserts so these will double the amount of land that is available for agriculture and because green houses grow 10 times the amount of food on an acre of land as open air agriculture—these greenhouses will increase the amount of food available by 10 times.

Finally temperate zone greenhouses are exploding all over the place in the USA europe and asia. currently the second largest food exporter in the world is the netherlands. the usa is the largest exporter. how does the netherlands with a fraction of the land in the USA get to be the second largest exporter? greenhouses. the netherlands is now the greenhouse capital of the world. also they are re exporters of food from spain that is grown in greenhouses.

If greenhouses ever take over the farmland in the temperate regions of the world —they will expand production by 10 times.

That probably won’t be necessary because vertical farming will make most cities self supporting in a 100 years or less.

There are a couple more agricultural revolutions in the wings.

the point here is that the world can support populations 100-1000 times the size of the current population. That world won’t be as pleasant as this world but it can be done. and by that time population pressures and technology will allow people to move to the other parts of the solar system and maybe nearby stars.


16 posted on 11/08/2019 12:10:22 PM PST by ckilmer
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I would love to know how many of these greenhouses use CO2 emitters?

I think that is one of the more telling scieintific facts against global warming.


17 posted on 11/08/2019 12:22:47 PM PST by lonestar67 (America is exceptional)
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I really only eat leafy green vegetables, and things like broccoli and cauliflower. The occasional Hothouse cucumber is also on my table. I don’t eat much fruit because I really try to stay away from sugar even though I am not a diabetic, and I don’t eat too much grain-based foods like bread and pasta, however I do eat a finger of pasta occasionally with cooked cabbage and beets and some other things on top of it with a tablespoon or so of a good quality tomato sauce that I season myself because I can’t stand powdered garlic in powdered powered onions.

Kind of bland but you get used to it and it tastes good to me. So if you’re worried about things like Greenhouse Tomatoes Etc eat dried tomatoes, or perhaps just get away from nightshades all together and reduce inflammatory conditions that are caused by Nightshade such as tomatoes and potatoes and green peppers etc...


18 posted on 11/08/2019 12:35:36 PM PST by Clutch Martin (The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right.)
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“I have my Rubrics cube oiled up and ready to go!”

I have a grand-nephew that can do a Rubik’s Cube in under 2 minutes. It amazes me, I don’t know how he does it because personally, I have never successfully finished a Rubik’s Cube.

I can still beat him at chess, but I think it’s really only going to be a matter of time.


19 posted on 11/08/2019 12:39:03 PM PST by Clutch Martin (The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right.)
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How To Solve The Rubik's Cube
20 posted on 11/08/2019 12:47:25 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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