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ISO a Battery Operated Hotplate B4 Next California Blackout!
October 30, 2019 | Lee Martell

Posted on 10/30/2019 9:39:34 PM PDT by lee martell

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To: metmom

Hmm, I imagine, about half is submerged in boiling water.
Is the temp of the water as hot as the steam temp?

So, ultimately, do all the jars have cooked the product to the same quality?


61 posted on 10/31/2019 2:07:58 AM PDT by NachOsten
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To: lee martell

“Prepper” is now a synonym for “realist”.


62 posted on 10/31/2019 2:36:21 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets
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To: NachOsten
...Is the temp of the water as hot as the steam temp?...

In a pressure cooker or a pressure canner the water and steam are at the same temp.

63 posted on 10/31/2019 3:41:49 AM PDT by CurlyDave
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To: lee martell
"I may have to get comfortable working with gas fuel. I’m not there yet."

I would say that today's portable butane stoves are safer than lithium batteries in the sizes you would need to power a cooking heat source. Butane over propane because the BTU/oz content is higher. Piezoelectric ignition far safer than matches OR batteries.

If I were setting up for camping/temporary bugout, I would have a single-burner butane stove and a "chef's" butane torch, with butane cigarette lighter for backup.

64 posted on 10/31/2019 4:32:01 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel and NRA Life Member)
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To: lee martell

C4


65 posted on 10/31/2019 4:39:38 AM PDT by Rannug (When you're dead, you're dead. Until then fight with everything you have.l)
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To: Equine1952

Pressure CANNER Not pressure cooker.


66 posted on 10/31/2019 4:49:58 AM PDT by Rannug (When you're dead, you're dead. Until then fight with everything you have.l)
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To: lee martell

Lee,

I’ve been using some Coleman liquid fueled stoves for years and am absolutely thrilled with them. They’re much more robust than the butane models. My two burner model is over 25 years old and still works like the day I bought it.

The liquid fuel seems to burn hotter than butane as there’s more energy in the liquid. They take a bit more practice to use safely but IMO the trade off is more than worth it.

We each keep a small, lightweight single burner model in our vehicles as part of our “Oh Crap” kits. They make leak proof cylinders for extra fuel which cost around $10 or so IIRC.

If you opt for the Dual Fuel model you have the option of using the white gas or unleaded gasoline.

Just another option for you to consider.

Good luck,

L


67 posted on 10/31/2019 4:53:07 AM PDT by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: lee martell

Past mistakes are mostly “mistakes” of state regulation and prohibitions that prevented modernization and sometimes simple repair of equipment.


68 posted on 10/31/2019 4:55:24 AM PDT by arthurus (|-|w/>_<:-.| |-=O eIHco ,+ kk *)
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To: lee martell
MSR PocketRocket Ultralight Backpacking and Camping Stove Kit
69 posted on 10/31/2019 4:55:45 AM PDT by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds.)
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To: 5by5; lee martell

“H-Mart, the Korean-owned Asian grocery store chain, sells butane single burner stoves. $20-30.”

You can also buy the fuel at those stores for around $1.00 per can - far lower than anywhere else.

Probably the best long-term option is to use one of these stoves. Gasoline is much cheaper to use, but messy and dangerous, and has a shelf life. Just buy a good butane stove - or two cheap ones (so you have a backup).


70 posted on 10/31/2019 5:02:59 AM PDT by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart - I just don't te Don't tell anyone.)
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To: lee martell

Get one that doesn’t require electricity or a proprietary propane bottle such as a multifuel MSR https://www.msrgear.com/stoves/liquid-fuel-stoves/whisperlite/11782.html?srd=true


71 posted on 10/31/2019 5:04:24 AM PDT by Colorado Doug (Now I know how the Indians felt to be sold out for a few beads and trinkets)
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To: lee martell
Here ya go:

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72 posted on 10/31/2019 5:07:16 AM PDT by Alas Babylon! (The media is after us. Trump's just in the way.)
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To: lee martell

Most international markets sell propane burners


73 posted on 10/31/2019 5:10:34 AM PDT by AppyPappy (How many fingers am I holding up, Winston?)
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To: Equine1952

You said it.

We are moving from the People’s Republic of NY and the place we bought has a large gardening shed that we are going to set up as a canning kitchen complete with stove top, sink, running water, and old counter top from a recently remodeled kitchen.

That way all the mess and stuff will be outside in the summer.

In the fall, it’ll go back to the kitchen, but it won’t bee much.


74 posted on 10/31/2019 5:10:48 AM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: NachOsten

The whole jar is submerged in boiling water and covered by at least one inch.

The thing that gives you the higher temps in pressure canning is the pressure. By increasing the pressure, it allows you to go to 240F instead of 212F.

I like the quality of home canned foods better. Many store products are canned from nearly inedible produce that has been bred for the rougher handling of automated manufacturing.

When you grow, or pick, and then can your own, you KNOW what’s in it and what the quality is. You can process it just the way you want,.

For myself, when I do meat for soups, I do not can the ready made soup. I don’t like the way the veggies come out in pressure canning, so I can the meat and stock just plain and then when I want soup, open a can or two of the canned meat, and add the veggies fresh. I really doesn’t take that much more time than making the soup and then pressure canning the finished product.


75 posted on 10/31/2019 5:16:52 AM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: lee martell

Get a small propane stove. Hot plates tend to use too much energy to be effective on batteries.


76 posted on 10/31/2019 5:32:58 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: lee martell

I understand that. But, as long as general rules are followed there isn’t a lot of danger. Worst case...cook in the garage where there is more ventilation.


77 posted on 10/31/2019 5:35:02 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: Reno89519

I used to get it at the local hardware/feed store. 50 pound bag. We had a coal burner in the basement. It sure took the chill off the floors in the morning.


78 posted on 10/31/2019 5:38:13 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: Alas Babylon!

Goal Zero makes some good stuff, too.


79 posted on 10/31/2019 5:39:54 AM PDT by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds.)
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To: lee martell

You can get a single burner Coleman stove for bout $30. Battery will die before your soup even gets warm and you may not have a place to charge it.

Camp stoves run on gas or propane. Having cooked hundreds and possibly thousands of meals on them, go with propane.

Or, you can also buy butane which is much smaller. Backpackers use them. They are much smaller and tend to work better in cold temps than propane. Probably not an issue for you.


80 posted on 10/31/2019 5:44:12 AM PDT by cyclotic (Democrats must be politically eviscerated, disemboweled and demolished.)
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