Posted on 10/30/2019 9:39:34 PM PDT by lee martell
Hmm, I imagine, about half is submerged in boiling water.
Is the temp of the water as hot as the steam temp?
So, ultimately, do all the jars have cooked the product to the same quality?
“Prepper” is now a synonym for “realist”.
In a pressure cooker or a pressure canner the water and steam are at the same temp.
I would say that today's portable butane stoves are safer than lithium batteries in the sizes you would need to power a cooking heat source. Butane over propane because the BTU/oz content is higher. Piezoelectric ignition far safer than matches OR batteries.
If I were setting up for camping/temporary bugout, I would have a single-burner butane stove and a "chef's" butane torch, with butane cigarette lighter for backup.
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Pressure CANNER Not pressure cooker.
Lee,
Ive been using some Coleman liquid fueled stoves for years and am absolutely thrilled with them. Theyre much more robust than the butane models. My two burner model is over 25 years old and still works like the day I bought it.
The liquid fuel seems to burn hotter than butane as theres more energy in the liquid. They take a bit more practice to use safely but IMO the trade off is more than worth it.
We each keep a small, lightweight single burner model in our vehicles as part of our Oh Crap kits. They make leak proof cylinders for extra fuel which cost around $10 or so IIRC.
If you opt for the Dual Fuel model you have the option of using the white gas or unleaded gasoline.
Just another option for you to consider.
Good luck,
L
Past mistakes are mostly “mistakes” of state regulation and prohibitions that prevented modernization and sometimes simple repair of equipment.
“H-Mart, the Korean-owned Asian grocery store chain, sells butane single burner stoves. $20-30.”
You can also buy the fuel at those stores for around $1.00 per can - far lower than anywhere else.
Probably the best long-term option is to use one of these stoves. Gasoline is much cheaper to use, but messy and dangerous, and has a shelf life. Just buy a good butane stove - or two cheap ones (so you have a backup).
Get one that doesn’t require electricity or a proprietary propane bottle such as a multifuel MSR https://www.msrgear.com/stoves/liquid-fuel-stoves/whisperlite/11782.html?srd=true
Most international markets sell propane burners
You said it.
We are moving from the People’s Republic of NY and the place we bought has a large gardening shed that we are going to set up as a canning kitchen complete with stove top, sink, running water, and old counter top from a recently remodeled kitchen.
That way all the mess and stuff will be outside in the summer.
In the fall, it’ll go back to the kitchen, but it won’t bee much.
The whole jar is submerged in boiling water and covered by at least one inch.
The thing that gives you the higher temps in pressure canning is the pressure. By increasing the pressure, it allows you to go to 240F instead of 212F.
I like the quality of home canned foods better. Many store products are canned from nearly inedible produce that has been bred for the rougher handling of automated manufacturing.
When you grow, or pick, and then can your own, you KNOW what’s in it and what the quality is. You can process it just the way you want,.
For myself, when I do meat for soups, I do not can the ready made soup. I don’t like the way the veggies come out in pressure canning, so I can the meat and stock just plain and then when I want soup, open a can or two of the canned meat, and add the veggies fresh. I really doesn’t take that much more time than making the soup and then pressure canning the finished product.
Get a small propane stove. Hot plates tend to use too much energy to be effective on batteries.
I understand that. But, as long as general rules are followed there isnt a lot of danger. Worst case...cook in the garage where there is more ventilation.
I used to get it at the local hardware/feed store. 50 pound bag. We had a coal burner in the basement. It sure took the chill off the floors in the morning.
Goal Zero makes some good stuff, too.
You can get a single burner Coleman stove for bout $30. Battery will die before your soup even gets warm and you may not have a place to charge it.
Camp stoves run on gas or propane. Having cooked hundreds and possibly thousands of meals on them, go with propane.
Or, you can also buy butane which is much smaller. Backpackers use them. They are much smaller and tend to work better in cold temps than propane. Probably not an issue for you.
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