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X-37B breaks record, lands after 780 days in orbit
USAF ^ | October 27, 2019 | Secretary of the Air Force Public Affairs

Posted on 10/27/2019 11:15:29 AM PDT by BenLurkin

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To: Spktyr

Holy shmoboli!!!!

I don’t know what all those groups mean but that looks like a LOT of stuff in space, indeed!


61 posted on 10/27/2019 1:53:42 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (As always IMHO)
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To: Big Red Badger

>>Yup,
Ginger
Or
Maryanne?<<

MaryAnne!


62 posted on 10/27/2019 1:54:35 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (As always IMHO)
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To: xp38
Looks like a mini unmanned shuttle

It is indeed an unmanned drone, and the payload is also unmanned probably most of the time.

63 posted on 10/27/2019 2:00:33 PM PDT by Sirius Lee (They are openly stating that they intend to murder us. Prep if you want to live.>>>)
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To: John S Mosby

yes Banks was a loss to the SciFi world. But its always fun to speculate that he might have had some sort of insight and some civilization like the Culture might exist. Then putting that together with the USAF’s mysterious vehicle is a fun story - for me anyway.


64 posted on 10/27/2019 2:10:18 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: PIF

Got to the question posed by the term GSV that triggered a memory. Which linked to SpaceX and Musk naming a couple of launch recovery droneship platforms at sea, after “vessels” from Bank’s series. “Of Course I Still Love You” in the Atlantic, and “Just Read the Instructions” in the Pacific.

This last mission was launched from inside a payload fairing atop a SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket, a re-useable rocket, recovered to one of those two droneships.

Say no more— ‘nudge, nudge’...


65 posted on 10/27/2019 2:26:40 PM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: freedumb2003; camle; Alkhin; Professional Engineer; katana; Mr. Silverback; MadIvan; ...
Big Red Badger ~ Yup,
Ginger
Or
Maryanne?

freedumb2003 ~ MaryAnne!

Red Dwarf Ping!

LISTER: Cat?
CAT: Mmm?
LISTER: Ya ever see the Flintstones?
CAT: Sure!
LISTER: D'ya think Wilma's sexy?
CAT: Wilma Flintstone?
LISTER: Maybe we've been alone in deep space too long, but every time I see that sharmi(?) body, it drives me crazy. Is it me?
CAT: Well, I think in all probability, Wilma Flintstone is the most desirable woman that ever lived.
LISTER: That's good. I thought I was goin' strange.
CAT: She's incredible!
LISTER: What d'ya think of Betty?
CAT: Betty Rubble? (Pause) Well, I would go with Betty... but I'd be thinking of Wilma.
LISTER: This is crazy. Why are we talking about going to bed with Wilma Flintstone?
CAT: You're right. We're nuts. This is an insane conversation.
LISTER: She'll never leave Fred, and we know it.

66 posted on 10/27/2019 2:28:18 PM PDT by null and void (Convicted spies are shot, traitors are hanged, saboteurs are subject to summary execution...)
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To: Spktyr
We've been doing that for 40 plus years.

Here's the system I worked on from 1976 to 1979:

Here's the place a worked from 1979-1982:


67 posted on 10/27/2019 2:29:04 PM PDT by Alas Babylon! (The media is after us. Trump's just in the way.)
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To: null and void

Yes— long gone 8th Air Force B-17 pilot— survived all of his missions— including Czechoslovakia Brux oil targets and those in Leipzig. Loved good food and beer— will always remember comments one time when bringing cold Urquell Pilsner one year on Independence Day. He “teared up” when he read the label— and said “lost more than few friends over that city”. Tough Southern gentleman- like other 50% survivors of WWII in the family.


68 posted on 10/27/2019 2:40:51 PM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: Big Red Badger

Ginger for the short term, Maryanne for the distance.


69 posted on 10/27/2019 2:53:34 PM PDT by gibsonguy (BL2)
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To: Alas Babylon!

Yes, but until recently that was the domain of governments. The link I have been posting is from *non-government* sources.


70 posted on 10/27/2019 2:54:12 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: null and void
Soooo, what exactly does it do for 780 days in space, hmmm?

Well, there have been a lot of good guesses posted here, but we have to remember that the House of Representatives is controlled by Democrats. And we all know that Democrat congress-critters are into 'science'! So my guess is, that they were dropping off a few more astronauts on Mars. Plus, conducting critical, long-distance, mass-balancing operations on Guam, to keep the island from capsizing...

;^)

71 posted on 10/27/2019 2:54:19 PM PDT by Who is John Galt? ("He therefore who may resist, must be allowed to strike.")
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To: xp38

could this be used as an ambulance? Taking an injured astronaut from the ISS back home to Earth?


72 posted on 10/27/2019 2:55:24 PM PDT by ak267
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To: rlmorel

Private tracking systems improved greatly since the first one went up. Additionally, the VVLA concept became not only a practical reality but even a cheap one.


73 posted on 10/27/2019 2:57:07 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: steve86

Long version: “Stealth” involving radar absorption causes the craft to heat up. This means you can see it more clearly on infrared/thermal. You can see the vessel with a camera array, as it will block out background stars or other light sources. If the vessel uses any sort of thruster to move at all, the ejecta will be observed.

Using commercial technology of the time, the Space Shuttle firing an attitude control jet could be detected out past the solar system’s asteroid belt. Transmission by radio or using an ion thruster is even worse - it takes less than one second for a private radiotelescope to see a 20 watt source out past 18 *billion* km. Which is exactly how we locate and talk to the Voyager space probes.

There is no horizon to hide over, no ground clutter to disappear in. You can’t even hide in the sun.

More reading: http://www.projectrho.com/public_html/rocket/spacewardetect.php


74 posted on 10/27/2019 3:08:47 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: BenLurkin; All

Great post; informative thread. Thanks.


75 posted on 10/27/2019 3:10:12 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: SunkenCiv

*ping*


76 posted on 10/27/2019 3:25:04 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Who will think of the gerbils ? Just say no to Buttgiggity !)
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To: Spktyr

Fair enough.... But I did a lot of work with Raytheon Corporation.

They did as much to make our space tracking mission successful as anyone in the government.


77 posted on 10/27/2019 3:26:30 PM PDT by Alas Babylon! (The media is after us. Trump's just in the way.)
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To: Alas Babylon!

Yes, but at the time the only people ordering or able to afford such tech were governments. Today, private space organizations routinely buy systems that vastly exceed the capabilities of systems from 1979.

Here’s another similar case in point - one reason why smaller NATO and non-aligned nations don’t buy photo reconnaissance satellites and have them launched is because today, right now, you (or anyone else with a surprisingly low amount of money - relatively) can buy time on *commercial* privately-owned photo reconsats that have better resolution than those the US military was using in the 1990s. Let alone those used in the time you were at Raytheon.


78 posted on 10/27/2019 3:34:39 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: xp38

Looks like that mare could use a rub down and some feed after all them hard miles.


79 posted on 10/27/2019 3:37:11 PM PDT by reed13k (For evil to triumph it is only necessary that good men do nothing)
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To: freedumb2003

Note that the combined systems whose output is displayed there can detect something unpowered, possibly made of reasonably radar absorbent materials in orbit the size of a briefcase or a little less.

And that’s all private sector stuff, which has grown up as a result of the private space revolution. If commercial space control systems can do this, what do you think government systems can see?


80 posted on 10/27/2019 3:39:39 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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