Lost in Combat? [3000 years ago]

University of Göttingen ^ | 15.10.2019 | Tobias Uhlig, et al

[Farmerbob]

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/cornish-tin-found-in-israel-is-hard-evidence-of-earliest-trade-links-wg8qt6hhj

[Openurmind]

I did catch that and found it highly interesting, It changed the timeline narrative and assumptions of sea trading. :)

[Red Badger]

The Phoenician traders went everywhere!..............😉

[Openurmind]

I like metal. :)

[Openurmind]

Everywhere but the great Lakes, or did they? :)

[Red Badger]

Some say the Vikings, some say the medieval English, some say the Knights Templar all came thru the Great Lakes...................

[buwaya]

I agree. This is not equipment as such.
It could also be booty. Bronze was valuable.

[Openurmind]

I am one who believes this did indeed happen. The official narrative is that it never could have happened because “they couldn’t get their ships from the sea to the lakes”.

My first thought was “What? they didn’t know how to park their ships, walk across land, and build more boats as needed on the other side?” It is one of the most ignorant assumptions I have heard yet. Even the president of the maritime historical society made the comment they never could have done this because the ships would all have to be built in their home ports and “towed” to the new world. WHAT??? The sailors were not certified and approved by the shipbuilder’s union so they were not allowed to build them as need on the other end? If it wasn’t built in a shipyard then it was impossible? Dumbest thing I ever heard.

This prevalent ideology in perspective that dominates the academics is ignorant. They maintain for some reason that landlubbers could never have built boats and floated. And seafarers could never have crossed land. Where did they come up with these assumptions and ignorant stereotyping?

[Red Badger]

One of the reasons, out of many, that the new world was so enticing was that Europe was running out of trees to build ships.......................

[Openurmind]

I can see this need. Know where we need to look deeper for ancient wrecks and out of place artifacts? In the great lakes...

[Red Badger]

All you’ll find is old PBR cans............

[Openurmind]

Lol, Something interesting about the great lakes. I guess because of the cold water or something, it preserves wood very well. They are mining 150 year old timbers from the bottom that are like new. They found that they have a very unique quality that makes them valuable.

[Red Badger]

Fresh water doesn’t have marine organisms that destroy wood. ...........

[Sirius Lee]

He died doing what he loved.

[Red Badger]

Fighting for his life?...............😯

[Openurmind]

That’s why! I wasn’t sure what it was. I remember reading somewhere that being water logged for so long all the cellulose is broken down and dissolved away. Apparently this makes it a very tone rich wood to make musical instruments out of. Cellulose deadens the tone and vibrations.

When they discovered this quality from these great lakes timbers is when they think they actually found the secret to the Stradivarius. They think Stradivarius soaked his wood for several years before dry curing it. This has of course been a mystery for a long time.

[SunkenCiv]

will ping in a few mins, min-while...

https://www.freerepublic.com/tag/tollenseriver/index

[SunkenCiv]

Thanks Red Badger.

• Early Bronze Age battle site found on German river bank [2011]
• "Early Bronze Age battle site found on German river bank" [2011]
• Unexpected and Gruesome Battle of 1250 BC Involved 4,000 Men from Across Northern Europe [2016]
• For Peaceable Humans, Don't Look to Prehistory [2016]

[SunkenCiv]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3780641/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/tin/index

[SunkenCiv]

• Archaeologists find bones from prehistoric war in Germany [2008]
• Early Bronze Age battle site found on German river bank [2011]
• "Early Bronze Age battle site found on German river bank" [2011]
• Unexpected and Gruesome Battle of 1250 BC Involved 4,000 Men from Across Northern Europe [2016]
• For Peaceable Humans, Don't Look to Prehistory [2016]