Posted on 09/30/2019 12:31:36 AM PDT by Windflier
I don’t own a home anymore, sold it 5 years ago and built living quarters upstairs in the mfg. plant where I build my bar stools and restaurant seating.
I grew up in New York. My Dad lived there until he passed away last year. My sisters live there.
It is the best example I can think of of a frog that was cooked so slowly that it didn’t jump out before it was dead. I’m sure that NJ, MD, Illinois and above all California are also excellent examples, but I remember my childhood and adolescence in NY so well that every little violation of the natural rights of the poor people who still live there sticks in my craw.
I just got back from a trip to France. Their socialism dwarfs the socialism of New York, Their public works and public benefits at least serve the people (and no, I prefer freedom where I live).
But socialism in NY is purely destructive. The subways and the trains are horrible. The bridges and roads are crumbling. Crime is exploding. The rules are for the little people, the benefits are for the elites.
Our motto in NYS is steal it before the state gov. steals it.
They’ll just take take their liberal diseased policies elsewhere and F— up that state as well.
Stay where you are. Your weather is perfect. Your food is perfect. Your restaurants are perfect. No, you don't need guns. Guns are de debil! All is well.
Stay in the utopia you've already created!
Isnt Pennsylvania doing the same thing just at a slower rate?
Maybe some place around Chagrin, PA....not far from Erie and includes some pretty country...and the name can be a reminder of how those who remain in NYC must be feeling....
I have lived in SW Pennsylvania for the last 30 years. Allegheny and Westmoreland counties have high property taxes. Washington and Green counties are about half. I live in a little town in Washington county where it was a big thing when they opened up a Taco Bell. Folks waited in line for a super swill taco. A few of my neighbors are flying Trump flags. Although since about early spring houses have been selling like crazy out here. You can still get a small 3 bedroom move in condition house for between 70 and 80 grand.
That was me and my husband, frustrated conservatives. We left not Jersey, the other liberal, tax-burgeoned, illegals all over mecca. Also live in NC now for years. This is home.
Like rats carrying the black death they're spreading the plague of liberalism/socialism wherever they go. They're fleeing, but taking their voting habits (overwhelmingly Democrat) with them.
NYC lost a lot of financial jobs over the last few decades; even the World Trade Center had a lot of vacancies when attacked (and that saved lives). Many places keep an address/PO box there, little more. Years ago many of those jobs came to NJ, now they go much further away. The backup site requirements after 9/11 made it worse; most of NJ was too close for those sites - so places figured they’d move far enough away so it was a moot point.
Also up around Cooksburg,PA. off Interstate 80 in Clarion County is beautiful country. Cooks State Forest has some of the last old growth forest in the state. Lots of cabins and mom and pop stores. Rocky streams and lazy rivers. Rolling hills and mountain valleys. It is about 2 hours NE of Pittsburgh.
“People Are Fleeing New York At An Alarming Rate”
The only thing alarming is if they are democrats and continue to be democrats in their new states.
Its sad when older people say that they no longer can afford to stay in NY. Its sad when, you spend most of your life growing up ,working and paying taxes in a state, that is now run by and infested with moron Democrats and RINOS, that could only care about the felons and illegal aliens! Cuomo has been Emperor in NYS for 3 terms and with a strong Democrat hold of the Legislature and Courts, I see no good outcome in NY, any time soon.
Exactly. Stay the F out of our states.
Not if NY politicians and bureaucrats have anything to do with it.
Be careful what you pray for! Replacing property tax means funding counties and schools through other taxes. Most PA property tax is to fund your county and school districts. When's the last time you saw government reduce their costs? Replacing property tax means taxing through another means. Call me cynical - the tax system that replaces the current property tax system could be another money grab more onerous than the tax system it replaces.
The worst thing would be a scenario where the government says it will 'reduce' property tax and supplement the loss with some new tax - e.g., an increase in sales tax. Unless government completely ends a particular tax or program, the tendency will be that that tax or program will demand more money over time. The last thing we need is that a particular tax be reduced and then supplemented by a new tax.
Good news, and bad news.
The good news is that people are leaving the NY metropolitan area.
The bad news is that those people don’t leave their politics behind and continue voting liberal in the places they move to. Thus, we have places like Florida going from read to purple and eventually blue. Stupid is as stupid does.
What needs to move is the way people think. They would not have to move from places like NY if they changed their voting habits.
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