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No Matter What Trump Does, Those Jobs Aren't Coming Back from China
RCM ^ | 09/03/2019 | Allan Golombek

Posted on 09/03/2019 9:24:11 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 09/03/2019 9:24:11 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

I think a lot of manufacturing will return to the us to save shipping costs and add goodwill, but it will be done mostly by robots, so it won’t really be much of a jobs issue.


2 posted on 09/03/2019 9:26:32 AM PDT by cuban leaf (We're living in Dr. Zhivago but without the love triangle)
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To: SeekAndFind

“No Matter What Trump Does, Those Jobs Aren’t Coming Back from China”

...but if they do, Obama gets the credit for it.


3 posted on 09/03/2019 9:27:14 AM PDT by rightwingcrazy (;-)
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To: SeekAndFind

Some will come back. Some will not. But, every job moved out of China makes it more difficult and expensive for China to pursue its aggressive posture against the United States.

Also, it is worth trying. MAGA!


4 posted on 09/03/2019 9:28:40 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: SeekAndFind

Considering that China has been adopting a belligerent and hostile posture, ANYTHING which reduces their power to wage war against us, is a good thing.

This would also include terminating all student and H1B visas for Chinese.


5 posted on 09/03/2019 9:28:41 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor (Socialists want YOUR wealth redistributed, never THEIRS!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Some of those jobs will come back, especially if younger generations get some real education into how economies flourish. Even those that don’t come back, if they went to Central American and Caribbean countries, it would be beneficial for stabilizing their economies. That would cut down the forces driving the invasion crisis.


6 posted on 09/03/2019 9:30:17 AM PDT by grania ("We're all just pawns in their game")
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To: SeekAndFind
Oh YEAH? Well, THESE jobs aren't coming back to America, so THERE!


7 posted on 09/03/2019 9:30:44 AM PDT by treetopsandroofs
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To: SeekAndFind

The average wage for Americans is about $60,000 per year, many times more than China, India or Vietnam..

But these POS know that 60k isn’t the average wage for factory workers.

15 an hour is 30k a year or less.

They are also wrong about robotics not leading to more jobs.

What a piss poor article full of holes that even I CAN shoot into a million pieces.

They don’t deserve a space on this great board.

But it is good to know the lies that are being spouted.

Then again, some here just post articles like these because they have a hard on for Trump (in a bad way) but are too ####ing cowardly to come out and say it.

And that’s how we get sh.t articles like these :)


8 posted on 09/03/2019 9:31:00 AM PDT by dp0622 (Bad, bad company Till the day I die.)
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To: SeekAndFind

There are two issues here:

1) Is automation going to be a problem for the US? Will there be too few jobs for Americans as industry becomes increasingly modernized? I would say “yes”.

2) Should China be allowed to take advantage of us though unfair trade practices, intellectual property theft, and currency manipulation? I would say “no”.

The two issues have no serious overlap. A mathematician would say that are “orthogonal”.


9 posted on 09/03/2019 9:31:39 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (If White Privilege is real, why did Elizabeth Warren lie about being an Indian?)
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To: SeekAndFind

Maybe not, but it stops China from stealing our intellectual property and getting US dollars for products then using that money to undermine the USA. It also knocks them down as a financial competitor.


10 posted on 09/03/2019 9:32:49 AM PDT by King_Corey (Buy American - https://madeinamericastore.com/)
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To: dp0622

I find that articles like this one help stimulate the mind. We read through the article and assess the validity of the claims. That takes intelligence. That builds intelligence.

Everything serves a purpose, don’t you think ?


11 posted on 09/03/2019 9:36:39 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: rightwingcrazy

These jobs may not return to the US, but if they get transferred to another country, that is STILL a plus.

India or Thailand or Vietnam, still stems the flow of US dollars to fund the Chinese anti-US programs (primarily through North Korea), which is where a lot of the US cash is going, in subtle and sometimes not so subtle ways.

This game is being played on several different levels, one of which is by indirect support of various thorns like Hong Kong, firmly stabbing the Chinese under their tail.

China is and should be treated as an adversary. But an adversary with whom a deal is possible.

Just a little more on our terms this time.


12 posted on 09/03/2019 9:37:50 AM PDT by alloysteel (Nowhere in the Universe is there escape from the consequences of the crime of stupidity.)
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To: cuban leaf

As it stands now your car is 90% built by robots. That iconic image of mobs of guys with wrenches standing along Henry Ford’s assembly line just isn’t reality anymore.


13 posted on 09/03/2019 9:38:22 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer.)
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To: SeekAndFind
The biggest problem the United States faces trying to repatriate companies is the fact that American wages are just too high. The average wage for Americans is about $60,000 per year, many times more than China, India or Vietnam.

Translation:

60K per year gets a family Walmart shopping, mortgage payments, vacations every few years, etc.

They aren't working in rice patties, eating the same thing every meal, and never leaving the region of the country their parents were born in.

-PJ

14 posted on 09/03/2019 9:38:29 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (The 1st Amendment gives the People the right to a free press, not CNN the right to the 1st question.)
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That's Bull Crap!

I heard that Black and Decker is building a factory in Texas to at least make Craftsman tools. Craftsman tools have been made in China and are Crap!

15 posted on 09/03/2019 9:38:49 AM PDT by painter ( Isaiah: �Woe to those who call evil good and good evil,")
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To: cuban leaf
I think a lot of manufacturing will return to the us to save shipping costs and add goodwill,

Shipping costs...it's the shipping costs from China.

I hope companies understand that the USA is leaving the Postal Union on 10/17/2019

Following the Trump letter to the Postal Union on 10/17/2018 giving a 1 year notice

That means that China will no longer have "developing nation" status for low cost postage to USA.

16 posted on 09/03/2019 9:39:53 AM PDT by spokeshave (If anything, Trump is guilty of attempting to obstruct injustice.)
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To: SeekAndFind

We really don’t need any more defeatists telling us what is possible and what isn’t. As I recall, most, if not all of what passes as the DC intelligentsia was pushing for Reagan to be diplomatic with the USSR, because the Soviets were there to stay and it was essential that we just find a way to get along. We all know how that turned out.

We should have 5, 10, 20, and 40 year plans on how to deal with China, and this should include ensuring US access to all precious metals we need, and a great strengthening of American production capacity.


17 posted on 09/03/2019 9:41:06 AM PDT by neverevergiveup
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To: ClearCase_guy
Is automation going to be a problem for the US?

I don't think so.

Someone has to build the robots and program the software. Based on the performance and durability of modern day electronics, the robots will have to be upgraded/replaced once a year. The software will undergo neverending revisions. Takes people to do that.

18 posted on 09/03/2019 9:41:38 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: SeekAndFind
The biggest problem the United States faces trying to repatriate companies is the fact that American wages are just too high. The average wage for Americans is about $60,000 per year.

How much does the writer make per year?

If we pay our workers more, and prices go up, that's OK with me.

I'd rather pay more for goods and services that I want or need, if the quality products are made by USA workers.

Quality is the key, I will not pay more for inferior goods because of where they are made. Period.

19 posted on 09/03/2019 9:41:45 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist mooselimb savages, today.)
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To: UCANSEE2

Yeah but I know at this point who is posting it because they’re too cowardly to just come out and say they are against what Trump is doing.

sure it’s good to assess articles that bring up valid points posted by someone we know is at least open minded to what Trump is doing.

This example has neither valid points nor a FR thread poster that though over and over posts articles like this doesn’t have the balls to say straight out what he thinks.

Where I come from, that’s a called a p@ssy.


20 posted on 09/03/2019 9:42:12 AM PDT by dp0622 (Bad, bad company Till the day I die.)
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