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After sexual assault acquittal, video emerges of Mateen Cleaves dragging naked woman into motel
yahoo.com ^ | August 23, 2019 | Jack Baer

Posted on 08/25/2019 5:25:03 AM PDT by grundle

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To: neverevergiveup

It does to me. If she went into that motel room voluntarily she did it to herself. The law says... but if she did that then she put herself in the position to be a victim on her own free will. Yeah, he raped her and should pay a penalty and her own penalty is self inflicted.


41 posted on 08/25/2019 6:24:59 AM PDT by arthurus (4Jwh9...vf)
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To: Zhang Fei

In other words, she was like the prostitute that took a rubber check for payment of her services. It wasn’t rape until the check bounced.


42 posted on 08/25/2019 6:25:08 AM PDT by sport
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To: Zhang Fei

“she later sent him a text message to join her and others at a bar.”

NBA groupie/coal burner.What’s any red-blooded guy to think of an invite like that?


43 posted on 08/25/2019 6:32:56 AM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: allendale

It’s apparently not new evidence. According to the article:

“The jury in Cleaves’ trial was shown the video, but it was never released to the public until after the trial.”


44 posted on 08/25/2019 6:34:43 AM PDT by be-baw
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

black prosecutors.............


45 posted on 08/25/2019 6:34:43 AM PDT by Stayfree (Liberalism is an incurable mental disease caused by stupidity and ignorance!)
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To: 21twelve

plus it’s a good look, socks in bed. :(


46 posted on 08/25/2019 6:35:47 AM PDT by ronniesgal (so I wonder what his FR handle is????)
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To: Bonemaker

[NBA groupie/coal burner.What’s any red-blooded guy to think of an invite like that?]


Traditional rape prosecutions seem to require the immediate filing of charges after the incident. Maybe #metoo has since changed that to whenever the woman recalls an aspect of the encounter that did not sit well with her.


47 posted on 08/25/2019 6:40:19 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

There is no double jeopardy for overturning verdict by 12 ga.


48 posted on 08/25/2019 6:41:02 AM PDT by Mouton (The media is the enemy of the people.)
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To: grundle
I hear all these Big 10 fans talking about how dumb SEC players are, how they are bought.

The SEC may buy players, but the Big 10 players and coaches steal womens' and childrens' souls.

Larry Nassar

Jerry Sandusky

Zach Smith and Urban Meyer

49 posted on 08/25/2019 6:43:32 AM PDT by MuttTheHoople
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To: grundle

I live in flyover country and thought all the TV commercials as of late with white women dating or marrying black men was virtue signaling by the commercial producers.

No longer.

Spent 10 days living in downtown Washington DC last month. Georgetown, Dupont and Thomas Circle areas.

White girls dating black guys was the norm. Easily 50% or higher.


50 posted on 08/25/2019 6:45:28 AM PDT by setter
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To: junta

Thanks to Intersectional Theory, depending on who the perpetrator and the victim are, it’s either a crime or else it is a righteous exercise of “Social Justice.”


51 posted on 08/25/2019 6:47:35 AM PDT by Wilhelm Tell (True or False? This is not a tag line.)
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To: grundle

Those in the van were justified in shooting him dead on the street. And should have.


52 posted on 08/25/2019 6:50:53 AM PDT by Delta 21 (Be strong & prosper, be weak & die! Stay true.... ~~ Donald J. Trump)
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To: arthurus
I don't disagree that she put herself in that position. That said, if you drag someone back into a hotel room, once let alone twice, while they are trying to run away from you and crying out for help, you are guilty of assault and should be convicted. Even if the woman was a hooker he would still be guilty of assault.
53 posted on 08/25/2019 6:51:27 AM PDT by neverevergiveup
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To: setter

I don’t care what color someone is, but I do care if they are a dirtbag.


54 posted on 08/25/2019 6:52:53 AM PDT by neverevergiveup
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To: Bonemaker

Being invited to meet someone and her friends in a bar after a golf event is not an invitation to be raped in my book. You must live by a different set of rules. Seeing any woman being chased down and drug back into a room obviously against her will is proof enough she was not a willing participant. I have gone to a woman colleague’s room to talk after a sales meeting and never once did it cross my mind that she wanted me to have sex with her willing or unwilling because of the invitation. What a strange and mysognistic place Freeper has become lately.


55 posted on 08/25/2019 7:21:52 AM PDT by redangus
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To: grundle

I usually have to get naked women OUT of my hotel rooms.


56 posted on 08/25/2019 7:28:39 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: grundle

Gosh. I wonder if a naked white athlete dragging a naked black girl back into the room (twice) would have gotten the same judgment? Or if the media would have covered it in the same way?


57 posted on 08/25/2019 7:31:37 AM PDT by sphinx
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To: redangus
What a strange and mysognistic place Freeper has become lately.

Lately? You must be somewhat new here.

Just a hint, gentlemen (not you, redangus,): If the woman you're with would rather run outside practically naked, and be humiliated, instead of having sex with you, that's a "no." If she she's yelling "help" to a bystander, that's a "no." If you have to drag her twice back to the room, it's a "no."

58 posted on 08/25/2019 7:31:44 AM PDT by Nea Wood
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To: setter

indeed!!!


59 posted on 08/25/2019 7:31:54 AM PDT by ronniesgal (so I wonder what his FR handle is????)
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To: neverevergiveup

[That said, if you drag someone back into a hotel room, once let alone twice, while they are trying to run away from you and crying out for help, you are guilty of assault and should be convicted. ]


The cops showed up at the hotel and asked her if she was being assaulted. She said no.


60 posted on 08/25/2019 7:41:12 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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