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The Later Art (1879-1904) of William-Adolphe Bouguereau (1825-1905) to Vivaldi
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Posted on 08/05/2019 1:26:27 PM PDT by mairdie

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To: mairdie

Thank you! I may take you up on that after I relocate. There is one live CD with some good pieces well recorded.


41 posted on 08/07/2019 1:53:59 PM PDT by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyone's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - J. R. R. Tolkien)
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To: mdmathis6

Was it the de Victoria?


42 posted on 08/07/2019 1:54:57 PM PDT by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyone's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - J. R. R. Tolkien)
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No, it wasn’t the Victoria or the Lauridsun; I think it starts off in g minor chords... and often went from 4 to 6 to as many as 8 parts...I can hear the thing in my memory as a wonderful sonorous blend. The other thing that sticks out is there is a there is a slight pause from the magnum then the Et amirabile part comes in in with the tenors and altos splitting with the tenors on e and the altos on a” and their part is in a minor with the tenors singing 5ths from the alto’s a(key signature changes in that section to c I think in that section)….the rest is lost some what to memory but I just know if I ever heard it again I could sing my bass parts perfectly....the song is like the “lost chord” for me. It was the first big adult serious song from highschool I had ever sung, and I had thought I had touched upon Heaven’s harps and felt humbled to be privileged to sing such music. My choir master was David Buttolph who for years was the orchestra and choir leaders at Binghamton university(then Harpur College at SUNY). He said I got in because he’d never seen an ear like mine; he’d play 5,6 8 note cords and I could pick them apart vocally; no I couldn’t always tell what sort of major or minor 6th to the nth power removed but I knew generally what major or minor chord they were by hearing them,(”aflat-a- c and e” singing them out.

Anyway my impression is that it was more of a Rutter sounding piece or someone of his time and philosophy....more modern 20th century but not bizarre in rhythm or atonic in sound. Just a lovely sonorous work. I have an ache in my soul to hear it again but I can not for the life of me remember the creator of the work.


43 posted on 08/07/2019 3:52:56 PM PDT by mdmathis6
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I do not recognize the description, especially since you are describing a divisi (eight part) piece. The only prominent one I found that seems to match at a glance is the first one; I have included links to a recording and sheetmusic. After that I have listed some lesser possibilities. Following further links I included some of the polyphonic era composers. (Maybe there will be something you like, if you cannot find the one you wanted.)

Frank La Rocca

http://www.newliturgicalmovement.org/2013/08/a-stunning-setting-of-o-magnum-mysterium.html#.XUvhNPJKimw

https://www.giamusic.com/store/resource/o-magnum-mysterium-satb-divisi-print-ww1406


Francis Poulenc

Pierre Villette

Ola Gjeilo

Pascal Picard

www.musicanet.org

http://www.ecspublishing.com/

https://www.sheetmusicplus.com/

http://www2.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php/O_magnum_mysterium


Johann Stadlmayr

William Byrd

Nicholas White

Pedro de Cristo

Giovanni Pierluigi da Palestrina

Clemens non Papa

Giovanni Gabrieli

If nothing suits you, I suggest you do a search for: “O magnum mysterium” SATB divisi.

You will come up with numerous more obscure settings, but maybe one of those is it.


44 posted on 08/08/2019 3:27:18 AM PDT by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyone's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - J. R. R. Tolkien)
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Buttolph often had us do some of his own works and arrangements some not ever published and I’m wondering now if it was his one of his own. I have searched at times over the years and have listened to many on the list you’ve supplied. The time reference is 1980 so it would have been a work published at or before that year.


45 posted on 08/08/2019 3:52:37 AM PDT by mdmathis6
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I suggest you contact the learning institution. My experience is that they sometimes have files of old concert programs (actual hard copies).

They may also be able to contact Buttolph, if living, or someone acquainted with his repertoire (assistant conductor, student aid). If he selected it once, he probably selected it repeatedly.

The university in whose chamber ensemble I sang in 2005-2010 had programs (and even some recordings) going back to the early 1970s at least. The music department may have a separate choral office manager.


46 posted on 08/08/2019 3:18:57 PM PDT by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyone's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - J. R. R. Tolkien)
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He’s passed away now, but I did think about the program idea, next time I’m up there(my mother still lives in that area) I might give it a try.


47 posted on 08/08/2019 3:26:51 PM PDT by mdmathis6
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