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Los Angeles homeless population hits 36,000 in dramatic rise
The Guardian ^ | Sam Levin

Posted on 06/04/2019 5:20:08 PM PDT by Steve1999

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To: Pelham

My point wasn’t that the Chinese aren’t buying property; I”m sure they are. I was trying to point out that the problem of high real estate prices in CA didn’t start 10 years ago, it’s been the case since post-WWII. The Japanese, Saudi’s, and other foreign nationals have also fed at the CA real estate trough over the years. I also know that the homeless have been around in CA for decades as well. It’s not a new problem, suggesting that new solutions are needed because, obviously, the old solutions aren’t working.


41 posted on 06/05/2019 5:01:43 AM PDT by econjack
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To: econjack; Yaelle

For years we were told by outside experts that we had always had illegal immigration in SoCal so we were making a big deal out of nothing. They don’t preach that anymore. I wonder what changed.

Now we get told that we have always had the homeless and that we are exaggerating that problem.

And we are told that the astronomical price of SoCal real estate has no connection to the flood of foreign buyers that local realtors have been talking about for a decade.

If past is prologue our outside experts will magically cease making those claims in a few more years. Won’t do us a bit of good here, but that’s not new either.


42 posted on 06/05/2019 10:57:04 AM PDT by Pelham (Secure Voter ID. Mexico has it, because unlike us they take voting seriously)
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To: Pelham
For years we were told by outside experts that we had always had illegal immigration in SoCal so we were making a big deal out of nothing.

You have, but not 100,000 illegals entering each month. It's a magnitude problem.

Now we get told that we have always had the homeless and that we are exaggerating that problem.

You have, but the magnitude is substantially worse now than it was decades ago.

And we are told that the astronomical price of SoCal real estate has no connection to the flood of foreign buyers that local realtors have been talking about for a decade.

You need to read more closely. No one is saying that foreign buyers don't affect real estate prices. All that's said is that high real estate prices in CA compared to average real estate prices in the US has always been higher.

If past is prologue our outside experts will magically cease making those claims in a few more years.

They weren't making the claims in the first place...see above.

43 posted on 06/05/2019 11:07:01 AM PDT by econjack
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To: LouAvul

When Orange and Anaheim shut down the 700 person homeless camp that had erupted along the Santa Ana River Trail they found that the homeless were roughly 1/3 drug and alcohol abusers, 1/3 mentally ill, and 1/3 criminals. With the three groups blending in many cases.

There weren’t any illegal aliens, probably because they have long been used to living 20 to a house to share the rent. Our local cities turn a blind eye to the overcrowding and let neighborhoods go to hell.


44 posted on 06/05/2019 11:26:53 AM PDT by Pelham (Secure Voter ID. Mexico has it, because unlike us they take voting seriously)
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To: econjack; Yaelle

“It’s a magnitude problem.”
“but the magnitude is substantially worse now “

I seem to notice a pattern.

We passed Prop 187 in 1994 because in California we already knew how serious illegal immigration had become.

Glad you managed to catch up, even though you feel it necessary to pretend that we exaggerated the issue for decades and it’s only recently become a problem worthy of notice. At least we managed to defeat a 2nd amnesty when Bush jr was pushing it.

I expect that homelessness and real estate costs for California natives will get the same dismissive treatment, until it’s announced that the “magnitude” of the issue has grown sufficiently large to acknowledge it exists, even though it’s already here in spades.


45 posted on 06/05/2019 12:05:17 PM PDT by Pelham (Secure Voter ID. Mexico has it, because unlike us they take voting seriously)
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To: Pelham

You need to ask why CA has failed so miserably to address the issues raised in Prop 187. It seems voters and the politicians you elect don’t care about it. You’ve had 25 years to fix it, yet all I see coming from CA are sanctuary cities. All of your major population centers are sanctuary cities. You don’t suppose that’s part of the problem, do you?


46 posted on 06/05/2019 12:58:44 PM PDT by econjack
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To: Steve1999

Hmmm...with no fixed address, that 36,000 can be moved around from district to district to influence voting...all it takes is a fleet ofvbuses and a progressive judge.

Soros will provide.


47 posted on 06/05/2019 1:15:58 PM PDT by Covenantor (Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern. " Chesterton)
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the three groups blending in many cases.

If that was the official summary, it's a fair bet ~90% were druggies.

48 posted on 06/05/2019 1:52:15 PM PDT by LouAvul
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To: fhayek

Mendoza Argentina, Santiago, Chile, most towns in Spain. FYI - majority of the homeless people in LA are not Hispanic.


49 posted on 06/05/2019 5:49:38 PM PDT by Clemenza (Lurking)
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