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Drezner: You all need to adjust to the fact that UFOs exist
hotair.com ^ | Jazz Shaw

Posted on 05/30/2019 3:32:57 AM PDT by RoosterRedux

You can add another voice from the media and education community to the growing list of military and government figures who are now talking about the potential realities of UFOs, no matter where they’re actually coming from. Daniel Drezner, a writer for the Washington Post, as well as a professor at Tufts University, tosses another log on the fire this week with a provocative proclamation. According to Drezner, we’ve hit the point where everyone needs to get used to the idea that we have things flitting around in our airspace that we can’t yet explain. He then dangles the bait many have been waiting for, asking how much longer it will be before we have to consider the unimaginable as the only logical conclusion.

What appears to be happening is that official organs of the state are now acknowledging that UFOs exist, even if they are not literally using the term. They are doing so because enough pilots are reporting UFOs and near-air collisions so as to warrant better record-keeping. They are not saying that these UFOs are extraterrestrials, but they are trying to destigmatize the reporting of a UFO.

Still, the very fact that this step has been taken somewhat weakens the Wendt and Duvall thesis ("Sovereignty and the UFO" by Alexander Wendt--Ohio State--and Raymond Duvall--Univ Minnesota). This was always a two-step process: (a) Acknowledge that UFOs exist; and (b) Consider that the UFOs might be ETs.

In recent years, the U.S. national security bureaucracy has met the first criterion. What happens to our understanding of the universe if great powers meet that second one?

The first notable thing about this article is that it’s coming from someone of Drezner’s standing and being published as a serious opinion piece in the Washington Post without any of the trappings of comedic disdain normally accorded the subject. As I mentioned when discussing the most recent Navy pilot reports, it was not at all that long ago when speaking or writing openly about such things would end your career. If Drezner had published this piece as little as two years ago it could have spelled the sunset of his academic career and his invitation to write at prominent newspapers

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TOPICS: Astronomy; Science; UFO's
KEYWORDS: aatip; alexanderwendt; astronomy; danieldrezner; davidfravor; districtofcolumbia; fringe; jeffbezos; luiselizondo; nimitzencounters; ohiostate; ohsomysteriouso; raymondduvall; science; tictac; ufo; ufos; uofminnesota; washingtoncompost; washingtonpost
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1 posted on 05/30/2019 3:32:57 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: RoosterRedux

Step #1) Admit you have a problem.


2 posted on 05/30/2019 3:59:09 AM PDT by WhoisAlanGreenspan? (# of takeoffs = # of landings)
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To: RoosterRedux

what’s “unimaginable “ about it?


3 posted on 05/30/2019 3:59:29 AM PDT by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing obamacare is worse than obamacare itself.)
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To: Mr. K
Being a Freeper, you are spoiled. That is, spoiled by being a member of a club of intelligent realists for whom "it is what it is" is an operative axiom of life.

There are many people--and a few Freepers--who resist reality. I guess they are scared of it.

Some of those resistant types will start showing up on this thread shortly.;-)

4 posted on 05/30/2019 4:20:17 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: WhoisAlanGreenspan?
Step #1) Admit you have a problem.

The acceptance of the rule is why a lot of recovered/recovering alcoholics and drug addicts are among the most sane humans alive.

5 posted on 05/30/2019 4:23:06 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: RoosterRedux
There are many who think this is a binary debate - there are or aren't beings from some other planet who visit us.

There is, however, a third point of view that usually produces a baffling response: when the members of the binary crowd hear it, they start treating you like a wacko. Really?

So, here goes...


6 posted on 05/30/2019 4:32:54 AM PDT by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s^2)
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To: DoodleBob

I like that. We have been warned about that for more than a few years (like 3000+)


7 posted on 05/30/2019 4:34:44 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: DoodleBob
BTW, Allen Hynek and Jacques Vallee both came to the conclusion that, whatever ET's were/are, they are interdimensional, not extraterrestrial.

And even atheist Whitley Strieber (in "Communion") came to the immediate conclusion that ET's are demonic and absolutely malevolent.

8 posted on 05/30/2019 4:40:16 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: RoosterRedux

In situations like this, I find Occam’s Razor to be a useful tool.


9 posted on 05/30/2019 4:41:12 AM PDT by ArtDodger
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To: RoosterRedux; Chode; All

IIRC in one of Phil Schneider’s videos He states that 2019/20 would be Disclosing of the UFO/ET to the Public.

I don’t know which of His many videos it was anymore as I spent a week watching a bunch of them.


10 posted on 05/30/2019 4:41:30 AM PDT by mabarker1 (Congress- the opposite of PROGRESS!!!)
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To: RoosterRedux

Yeah? So?

Completely out of my control, so I live my life every day as if... well, I live my life every day.

(Gotta watch “Earth vs. the Flying Saucers” again. Great flick. We win.)


11 posted on 05/30/2019 4:47:56 AM PDT by Peter W. Kessler ("NUTS!!!")
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To: RoosterRedux

Supposedly there are like as many a 57 or so different ET’s and some are 4th and 5th dimensional, some want to help save the Human Race, others not so much . Think Lab Rats...

It’s too bad Jesse Marcel Jr is no longer here on Earth and FR. I would be interested in His take on all this now, RIP Sir.


12 posted on 05/30/2019 4:49:13 AM PDT by mabarker1 (Congress- the opposite of PROGRESS!!!)
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To: RoosterRedux
...and for those who think the prior pic is to scary, here is a more pop-culture-but-still-scary pic...


13 posted on 05/30/2019 5:09:15 AM PDT by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s^2)
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To: All
Here are a couple of related FR threads posts from yesterday...
Multiple F/A-18 Pilots Disclose Recent UFOs Encounters, New Radar Tech Key In Detection

Navy pilots spotted UFOs flying at hypersonic speeds: report


14 posted on 05/30/2019 5:24:21 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: DoodleBob

Not to push Carl Sagan, but he did surmise that the distances were far to great. Interdimentional makes more sense even if it is harder to grasp


15 posted on 05/30/2019 5:32:02 AM PDT by Clutch Martin (The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right.)
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To: Clutch Martin
I read that the potential damage from hitting a rock or debris grows in relation to your speed. For example they kept scanning for debris on the journey of New Horizons (the probe that passed Pluto a few years ago) because at 40,000 mph a rock the size of a grain of rice could cause serious damage.

Thus, if an alien was traveling at light speed then hitting a tiny speck of something could be tragic. Compound that potential across scores of light years and, with our current technology, light speed travel is almost impossible. There has GOT to be a bit of rock somewhere between here and there, and if you hit it then KABLOOIE!!

16 posted on 05/30/2019 5:50:08 AM PDT by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s^2)
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To: RoosterRedux

For all the bravery of the writer, he didn’t say much. He uses the term “UFO”. That says there is something unidentified. I hear a strange sound in the night. It’s unidentified. At least until I discover in the morning that the cat knocked a glass off an end table.

We have not really explained why there are strange lights and even glowing orbs that are sometimes seen just before or during earthquakes. Despite the arrogance of so-called “climate scientists,” there are vast areas of everyday occurrences we still don’t understand.


17 posted on 05/30/2019 5:53:50 AM PDT by Cincinnatus.45-70 (What do DemocRats enjoy more than a truckload of dead babies? Unloading them with a pitchfork!)
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To: Clutch Martin

The problem is we don’t know what we don’t know. Concluding that space travel from the stars is unlikely because of the great distances involved reminds me of the 19th Century scientists who opined that the Sun was less than 5,000 years old because that’s how long a lump of coal that size could burn. Of course, they new nothing of nuclear physics and coal was the only source of combustion they could imagine which might fuel the Sun.


18 posted on 05/30/2019 6:15:45 AM PDT by PUGACHEV
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To: RoosterRedux
There are intelligent beings around. Unfortunately, they aren't in Congress..😋
19 posted on 05/30/2019 6:25:15 AM PDT by Deplorable American1776 (Proud to be a DeplorableAmerican with a Deplorable Family...even the dog is, too. :-))
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To: DoodleBob

Fried,
Over easy.


20 posted on 05/30/2019 6:25:30 AM PDT by Big Red Badger (Despised by the Despicable!)
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