Posted on 05/28/2019 7:48:49 AM PDT by Moonman62
General Motors, America's largest automaker, and Bechtel, the country's largest construction company, are teaming up to build thousands of electric vehicle fast-charging stations across the United States. The two companies have agreed to create a new company that will build the charger network. Adding more fast charging stations should provide a boost to sales of electric cars. One of the biggest concerns Americans have about electric cars is whether there will be enough places to charge them, according to a recent survey by AAA.
This network will not only help GM (GM), which plans to introduce 20 new electric vehicle models by 2023. But the new chargers could also be used by other manufacturers' electric vehicles, too.
GM will provide the data and expertise needed to place chargers in the locations where they can best be used, the two companies said. Bechtel, meanwhile, will provide its own expertise in engineering, building and permitting for the stations.
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Who is paying for the construction, upkeep and electricity?
It’s why fishing is fun.
Are there standards yet for fast charging systems, or will we end up with a Tesla charging station network, a GM charging station network, a Volkswagen charging station network, etc.?
“The electric vehicle market is growing and will continue to grow.”
Yeah, but where are they going to get the “juice?” It’s fine to build a charging network, but I doubt that the electrical grid can support the projected imposed load. All those nuclear plants that have been closed, and the one’s never built were the key to a successful EV rollout. No reason to buy an EV when you have to burn fossil fuels to charge it. I personally think EVs are great vehicles, but to suggest that they are “green” in today’s energy production scenario is laughable.
How long does it take to charge one vs how long does it take to fill up with fuel?
If they build a network of chargers using the SAE J1772 CCS (Combined Charging System) chargers that support 240 V 30 amp AC and 350 kW DC charging, then it will be very popular because just about every EV manufacturer outside of Tesla wants to support J1772 CCS.
Yeah, but where are they going to get the “juice?”
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Why aren’t the electricity producers sounding the alarm?
It appears every EV manufacturer except Tesla is standardizing on the SAE J1772 CCS (Combined Charging System) plug. Just that means by 2025, doing fast charging at a commercial charging station could be almost as common as a gasoline station.
Ninety percent of Tesla owners do their charging at home or at work.
In addition, there is this:
https://electrek.co/2019/04/03/tesla-ccs-adapter-first-look/
GM has squandered a fortune researching, developing and manufacturing electric vehicles. The problem is that there is only a very limited market. Those assets are not returning a profit and GM is saddled with debt. The average consumer still demands the all weather reliability, durability and convenience of the internal combustion engine. Unless coerced they don’t rush to buy electric vehicles. GM is now saddled with the anchor of dead money. Its executives followed a politically correct narrative down a rabbit hole instead of doing good market research. Best to sell GM and most auto stocks now. Tesla is the poster child for this nonsense but Ford, VW and others all made the same error. Capitalism offers great rewards but no guarantees or compensation for stupidity.
I watched in early 2018 a German documentary piece. Pro-battery car report, but they’d gone to find these ‘stations’. So on the map was a station just off a German autobahn....right next to a McDonalds. Small lot, two chargers stands, for a total of four charging possibilities.
So the journalist didn’t see anyone around....he walks over to Micky D’s. Oh yeah, says the Micky D’s manager....he watched them build these up. District government ‘gave’ them the property, and some grant was used (like 50-percent federal money and 50-percent private) to erect this, and pave the spot.
So the journalist asked about folks stopping. Since built (nine months prior)...the restaurant manager had NEVER seen anyone stop to charge up. He had figured that this would be great for business because you’d be there for four hours getting a charge, and this McDonalds was the only spot to eat/drink. But no...no one.
So this journalist in his battery car was the first person to charge up. So he noted the cost and the fee inserted into this. At home, this might have run around 1 to 2 Euro (figure $2.5 max). But this commercial charge had a fee attached, so this was coming up to around 7 or 8 Euro (around $9).
Maybe in five to eight years, the station would be paying someone off well...but here for the first couple of years, there’s zero payback going on.
“Where are they going to get the juice?”
It comes out of the wall, comrade! lol
Details, schmetails. Yeah no, the grid is in no way even remotely close to supporting this.
It can grow all it wants, until you can recharge in 10 minutes or less and drive 300+ miles, and have MILLIONS of charging stations, its nothing but a commuter vehicle niche.
What happens when it’s below zero outside?
The solution is not more charging stations, but longer extension cords.
Why do I always have to think of everything?
Electric Vehicles are the future, and always will be.
Because an increase in electricity usage allows them essentially unlimited growth within the bounds of being “regulated”. Empires love to grow.
I see what you did there :)
I solved the problem of flat tires. Concrete tires. To prevent cracking, we just need rubber roads....
Hat tip to Red Skelton.
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