Posted on 05/13/2019 3:44:45 AM PDT by C19fan
If the battle of Winterfell disappointed by failing to provide an adequate death list, one may well assume the relentless bloodshed that underpinned Sunday evening’s episode of Game of Thrones might appease its increasingly hard to please fan-base. But despite the demise of several key players, viewers were once again left to express their frustration, confusion and anger over what many regarded as an underwhelming penultimate instalment in the long-running fantasy drama.
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After what the writers have done over the past few seasons, I figured the series would end with Daenerys angrily blocking everyone else on Instagram. D&D have destroyed this thing with awful writing. Dumb and Dumber.
Very disappointed. This whole season really appears rushed and badly written. Maybe they should have waited for GRRM to finish his books.
I liked it. Stories go where stories go. All dissenters are free to write their own stuff.
GoT had awesome character development leading up to season 8.
You can clearly tell that GRRM did not have much say in how Season 8 would conclude.
I was fine with Arya killing the Night King, and for one battle Jon be near worthless. But you can clearly see that the writers went total SJW/MeToo
Clegane Bowl - i was fine with
Cerci deserved a better death
The Golden Company had less value than the Dothraki at night in the cold.
Everyone expects Arya to kill Daenerys next week. Give us a plot twist next week.
It’s a TV series everybody! Made in Hollywood!
Who really didn’t think they’d be disappointed?
I preferred not to give HBO my hard earned money.
HOW DARE YOU CALL IT A TV SERIES!!
It’s up there with The Song of Roland.
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We still watch because we've grown attached to the characters and want to see how they finish, but they are no longer operating in a magical world. Drogon is basically a very powerful attack helicopter. Yes, there was still a Night King and an army of the dead, but all it took was a stealthy assassin and a dagger thrust to wrap that up. Ancient wars, ancient magic, 6,000 years of legend, weighty prophecies, mysterious red priests from across the seas, the Long Night … and one quite ordinary dagger thrust and it's done? The prophecies, and not just those involving the Night King, have disappeared. Not long ago, Bran was a warg and a greenseer; now he is a cripple in a wheelchair who provides a little backstory from time to time. The Golden Company, with a long, lore-laden history and a very big plotline in the books, is introduced only to be annihilated as incidental props in their first extended scene.
It's the same devolution that Lord of the Rings -- and then, the unwatchable Hobbit -- suffered at the hands of Peter Jackson. Once a compelling fantasy/magical world has been built, it has to be sustained through the end of the story. That's hard work. It requires real creative imagination. Neither Peter Jackson's screenwriters nor the GOT crew have been up to the task. Special effects and extended battle scenes are a poor substitute for lack of imagination.
I'm not suggesting that it's easy. It's obviously not. Writer's block may be part of the story, but I think GRRM himself was defeated by the complexities of his own story. The best solution would be for GRRM to finish the books, managing to sustain the narrative level to the end. This would create a considerable chasm between the books and the later seasons of the show, but that's fine. The movies and television routinely butcher good literary material. We expect that. The twist in this case is that GRRM yielded the lead to the show halfway through the story. If he ever finishes, he will have to yank the narrative back. There will probably be an approximately similar ending, but major character arcs will likely be very different.
Arya considers returning to Gendry but, in the end, chooses Hotpie instead (because she doesn't want to be a lady), and settles down to running the inn at the crossing.
Either way, I will be very disappointed if Tyrion does not end up sitting on the Iron Throne. I mean, come on. If you're handing out MVPs?...
But alas, they'll probably find a way to weasel Sansa in there with Bran as her hand.
Hey, they nuked the place. What’s not cool about that?
I agree, it was a genius episode. I mean, D&D bringing Godzilla in to destroy Tokyo like that. Except that in most Godzilla flicks we don’t get to see people being burned, slow mo scenes of said burnings and merging in that Frankenstein v. Wolfman fight, pure effing genius!!!
Oh man, that crazy Pearl Harbor opening to Godzilla torching Tokyo!!! Wowsers. All irrational mad Dany had to do was use her Bran CGI powers to disappear half the fleet shown in the last episode and fly out of the sun like a rational thinking WWII fighter ace. Genius!! She’s mad!!! But she isn’t!!
The Dorthraki all being killed and most of the unsullied two episodes before and being regenerated with super CGI powers? Genius!!
I don’t really mind the quick resolutions.
The Night King had broken through the wall at the end of last season. Winterfell wasn’t that far away. He was going to get there quickly. The war would start quickly, and it would be an all or nothing war. There was one way to win it, and that happened. Bran called it correctly.
The war between Cercei (Cercie?) and Daenarys also had to come pretty quickly. I couldn’t help notice that the dragon killing scorpions were virtually fixed with little maneuverability, reminiscent of the Maginot line. They were extremely vulnerable from the rear and flanks. So, when Drogon came from those directions, the enemy was fairly helpless.
What I won’t like is if they transition Daenarys from a fairly compassionate person to a crazed killer.
The only redemption of the story line is if Missandei’s “dracarys” pronouncement was actually a Sodom/Gomorrah type judgement and Daenarys realized it. The evil was so much a part of Kings Landing that destruction was the best option.
I’ll not be satisfied if it’s a quick easy, she’s bad, let’s kill her, etc. I’ll think that to be a betrayal of the entire story line and character that they’ve spent years putting together.
Hopefully, Jordan will write an alternative ending if they go with such foolishness.
I thought the episode was genuinely awful. There were a few nuggets - the Clegane brothers finishing each other off, the tension right before the battle, the total chaos in the city. But most of it was rote, far too bloody, Daeneyres looks like she is spaced out, not angry; there is no purpose in burning down your capital city with thousands of innocent taxpayers whom you will need after you take over; Cersie seemed out of it and not involved in the battle to the slightest degree. It was one of the worst, if not the worst episode in the eight years GOT has been broadcast. And, frankly, it was boring.
Cerci might not be dead.
IMHO, you can see the break between the George Martin material and the new storylines. GoT over the past season has moved away from the nasty, nut-cutting politics to increasingly rely on sword and sorcerer CGI. And Araya should have died a few times over last night. But changing Danys into a mad queen is actually a neat bit of character development.
I watched one of those supergeek post show analyses and he said that when the Mad King was threatening to burn King’s Landing down he had those firebombs planted all over the city but Jamie killed him before he could set them off. That was what was exploding around the city.
I read all the books and watch the show. I am big Science Fiction and Fantasy fan. Was I disappointed? No, it is a TV show. Nothing more, nothing less.
Could they have done more, sure, but they are winding this down. No ending would have made everyone happy.
Even at it’s worse, in my humble opinion it is the best show on TV hands down. I am happy I came along for the ride.
I don’t think Jon Snow kills the Queen, but I do think someone does. Often writers will show a character doing bad things, so that when they die the viewer will feel that they had it coming. The writers have done that with the Queen. They have also emphisized Jon’s ambivalence about being a king. It would not make sense for Jon to acquire kingship by his own act, like by slaying the Queen himself, but it would fit better if it happened by circumstance.
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