Posted on 01/24/2019 8:02:37 PM PST by upchuck
Actually I think G.H.W. Bush should be on that list, since it includes the Clintons, and he was at least as dangerous as they were.
He was essentially against the breakup of the Soviet Union after Gorbachev. His stated concern came from the deep state and it believed that a dismembered Soviet Union would lose control of its nuclear weapons. Then when the Soviet Union did break up, he set the stage, later exploited by the Clintons, that sent in westerners (experts in “market” finance) that actually HELPED build the current age of Russian oligarchs in control of nearly all the Russian economy.
Then, he did not “end” the war in Iraq, he delayed it’s end for 12 more years, leaving a hugely much more difficult “nail in the coffin” of Saddam to his son, GW. Those years made Iran stronger, and made Iran stronger (underground politically) in Iraq and fully prepared for the role they took when Saddam was finally ousted. The Shia in Iraq became more in line with Iran during those 12 years, whereas they were ready during the 1st gulf war to help the U.S. depose Saddam, for their own (not Iran’s) reasons. Most Iraqi common soldiers were Shia (the majority) and not Sunni (like Saddam and most of his senior officers). The Shia were politically suppressed by Saddam. Shia soldiers wanted to join the U.S. against Saddam, and go to Baghdad with U.S. support, against Saddam.
The “nation building” he avoided his son later had to do, when Iran was politically dug in in Iraq (among the Shia) and Saddam had his “civil war” against the U.S. all planned and ready.
Not finishing Saddam the first time, complicated many later decisions concerning Bin Ladden, Al Queda and Afghanistan. It kept Iraq in as a powder keg instead of a bullet point already checked off.
During the next 12 years more Iraqi Shia went over politically to the radical Shia militias backed by Iran, because when G.H.W. Bush had the chance to remove Saddam from their midst, he let him stay. They wanted to be our ally. We missed that chance, and GW paid the price. We literally threw the Arab Shia of Iraq into the Persian arms of the Mullahs of Tehran. Thank you G.H.W.Bush NOT.
Considering the claim to be in his eighties, the guy’s memory seem to only go back fifty years.
I would have included the Rosenbergs, who gave nuclear secrets to the USSR.
I would have included FDR who consigned Eastern Europe to decades of communist rule at the Yalta Conference.
That list is not complete without Saul Alinsky.
The horribly polarized, unprincipled, kneecap-em-to-win-at-all-costs state of our current politics is due to this man and his book which he dedicated to Satan.
Saul Alinsky is dirt. Agreed.
“The Clap (McCain) Crabs (Huckabee) Syphilis (Rudy) and Chlamydia (Mitt).”
So, in other words...Earth Whores.
“In contrast, the more similar you are to a Minuteman of 1776, the more likely you are to vote Republican. The GOP appeals to Core Americans, the Democrats to Fringe Americans.”
https://www.takimag.com/article/identity-stalinism/
Actually, not even Truman was responsible for China going Communist (let alone Nixon), though he certainly didn’t help with the overall situation. That blame can be placed squarely on FDR’s shoulders via the Yalta Agreement (not to mention Alger Hiss and his VP at the time, the communist one that came this close to getting the Presidency), and far more directly on two people: The first being Joseph Stilwell, a man who deliberately and knowingly handed the Communists China during World War II and sabotaged any chance of Chiang Kai-Shek keeping China firmly anti-Communist, basically being the John Kerry before Kerry was even born, and the second, surprisingly enough, was George Marshall (yes, the same guy who made the Marshall Plan), who due to naivety and partly because the Yalta Agreement basically tied his hands behind his back, let China go Communist. Had it not been for Stilwell’s siding with Mao Zedong out of explicit love for Communists, at the very least, China would be a solid ally against Soviet Russia and more importantly not Communist, not to mention most of Asia wouldn’t be communist either. Heck, we most certainly wouldn’t have had a Cold War to fight AGAINST Communism. In fact, Marshall and especially Stilwell’s screw-up was so massive that not only did that result in Joseph McCarthy calling them out on it, but even John F. Kennedy calling them out on it as well (and bear in mind, JFK is a Democrat, a fairly liberal one at that, so when even JFK realized just how bad that was, you KNOW it’s very bad.).
Eh, regarding JFK, with all due respect to your old man, at least JFK actually FOUGHT against the Communists and actually broke ranks from his fellow Democrats and aided Joseph McCarthy in taking down the Communists or die trying, which is still a heck of a lot better than most of their contemporaries on the left during that time including Harry Truman, let alone now. You have to admit, that’s pretty dang courageous. Plus, he also realized letting Vietnam having free elections especially with someone like Ho Chi Minh manning things would have been stupid and wisely rejected it. He sure as heck beats FDR who was so in bed with the Communists that it’s actually a surprise that he WASN’T one. To say little about the likes of George Lucas (he’s so far to the left that he knowingly rooted for a terrorist group, the Vietcong, during the war, and has implied that he’s NOT fond of JFK), John Kerry, and Bill Clinton (who actually not only dodged the draft, but even went further to organize not just anti-war protests, but explicitly anti-American protests, with their being sufficient evidence that he may have joined the KGB during that time), not to mention Barack Obama.
Definitely agreed with FDR, though. Heck, his dallyance with Stalin is pretty much the reason why we even HAD a Cold War and why Communism had been expanded significantly, and in more ways than one (for example, you probably know how the Yalta Agreement’s why Eastern Europe was subject to the Warsaw Pact, but did you know that it was also partly the reason why China became communist overnight after World War II?). Not to mention he was responsible for the UN, a Communist front organization of the worst sort.
By “he”, I mean Truman.
To be fair, George HW Bush, a huge RINO, wasn’t exactly gutless regarding the media (remember, he managed to take down Dan Rather when the latter tried to pull a fast one on him over Iran-Contra, even turn the tables on him. And bear in mind, Rather was at the height of his power at the time.). But yeah, we definitely needed a president who actually COULD fight back against the media, hard and fast. Too much time was spent appeasing the media. Good thing Trump’s an actual fighter.
Johnson is at the top of the list for many reasons. As Majority Leader he did things that impacted this country terribly and we are still seeing those effects today.
He was probably the single most corrupt person in modern politics and as President.
Nixon didn’t start the globalism bit. That was either FDR or Wilson (with the UN and League of Nations, respectively). While Nixon might not have actually helped to stop it (though to be fair, even Ronald Reagan supported the UN, which I think was a big mistake), he was largely innocent of actually starting it.
He also wasn’t responsible for creating the Chinese monster. Again, that was FDR’s fault, and more directly the fault of Stilwell and to a lesser extent Marshall (China wouldn’t even BE communist had they just backed Chiang Kai-Shek).
I won’t comment on the whole “second cold war” bit, though.
Well, technically, China becoming communist was more FDR’s fault than Nixon’s fault. He does deserve blame for allying ourselves with China, even if it was misguided reasons at worst.
As far as the EPA, to be fair, that one actually was kind of necessary at the time because back then the rivers were dangerously polluted (there was a reason why the word “crud” exists.). Sure, it really went way overboard later on, but it still was ultimately necessary, just as the income tax was necessary under Lincoln during the Civil War.
Besides, at least he won Vietnam (watch Prager U, it makes clear that, contrary to leftist history, we actually won Vietnam, and if anything, the Democrat congress backstabbed our South Vietnamese allies after exploiting Watergate for all its worth).
“...George HW Bush, a huge RINO, wasn’t exactly gutless...”
Once or twice, yes.
We need a full-time brawler. And Trump IS that full-time brawler.
Not afraid to kick the dems and their media assclown buddies right in the balls.
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