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10 Fascinating Facts About Custer and His Last Stand – Little Big Horn
War History Online ^ | Nov 13, 2017 | Greg Jackson

Posted on 01/21/2019 12:17:14 AM PST by vannrox

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To: sphinx
Five Union Cavalry Generals. Five Union Cavalry Generals: (from left to right) Philip Sheridan, James W. Forsyth, Wesley Merritt (seated), Thomas C. Devin and George A. Custer (seated). File from The Photographic History of The Civil War in Ten Volumes: Volume Four, The Cavalry
21 posted on 01/21/2019 4:59:06 AM PST by Pikachu_Dad ("the media are selling you a line of soap)
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To: Caipirabob

Long ago I read a book about the western frontier in the mid 18th century. One torture account really stuck with me. The Indians opened up your abdomen, tied one end of your intestines to a stake, and forced you to walk around the stake, winding your intestines thereupon.

Not sure if it is true, but how ghastly and horrible that would be.


22 posted on 01/21/2019 5:02:30 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: vannrox

Custer was born in Michigan.
Doesn’t that make him a “Native American” too?


23 posted on 01/21/2019 5:17:58 AM PST by CivilWarguy
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To: vannrox

BKMK


24 posted on 01/21/2019 5:32:23 AM PST by waterhill (I Shall Remain, in spite of __________.)
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To: Pikachu_Dad
Sheridan and Grant liked Custer because he was aggressive to a fault and a fighter. He had come to prominence earlier, however, as one of Alfred Pleasanton's "boy generals." Particularly in the eastern theater, confederate cavalry had ridden rings around the federal cavalry in the first two years of the war. Some of this was a matter of organization, employment and doctrine. Some of it came down to command personalities. It's quite a complicated story, and one on which I will defer to the cavalry experts. But bottom line, the federals recognized that they had a problem and set about fixing it.

Pleasanton's reputation has not fared well, but one of his great services to the cause was to promote three young officers -- Custer, Elon Farnsworth and Wesley Merritt -- to brigade command. They were chosen quite specifically for their aggressiveness, the idea being to get out and smoke Jeb Stuart. Farnworth was killed at Gettysburg (at age 25), but Custer and Merritt emerged, along with Tom Devin, as a highly competent command trio that in 1863-64 slowly wrested cavalry dominance away from the confederates. John Buford might well have figured prominently in this command evolution as his star had steadily risen, but he fell ill and died in the winter of 1863. It's a small world department: one of Buford's aides at the time of his death, and present at the bedside, was Myles Keough, who would die with Custer at the Little Bighorn. Devin was one of Buford's brigade commanders at Gettysburg.

25 posted on 01/21/2019 5:33:28 AM PST by sphinx
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
I haven't finished the book despite owning it for several years. I just could not. It's that bad.

But we have made so much progress beyond what the left wants for us. There's always some lefty idiot trying to stir trouble. It will be up to us conservatives, to unite all our people in common cause for freedom and to build a future for all of us together.

26 posted on 01/21/2019 5:41:27 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists...Socialists...Fascists & AntiFa...Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: sphinx
Myles Keough is also an interesting character. Hollywood made him a romantic hero of the Little Bighorn, much assisted by the fact that his horse, Comanche, was the sole recovered U.S. cavalry survivor. (The Indians took or killed all the other surviving horses. They left Comanche because he was so badly injured. My guess is that they took him for dead, or they might well have finished him off with a mercy killing.) Comanche went on to a long and distinguished military career as the U.S. Army's favorite mascot. He ended as an honorary officer and received full military honors at a formal funeral, after which his remains were preserved and displayed at the University of Kansas. I don't know if they're still there.

Keough was born in Ireland and as a young man volunteered to fight for the Pope in the Italian wars of the time. He served gallantly, became an officer in the Papal forces, and was for a time a member of the Irish company in the Vatican Guard. When peacetime service in the Vatican proved boring, he came to America to find adventure. In this, he succeeded. He was a classic 19th century soldier of fortune and adventurer.

Keough's most colorful Civil War moment came at Port Republic in the 1862 Valley Campaign, when he led the Union cavalry detachment, ranging ahead of Shields' division, that dashed unexpectedly into town and almost captured Stonewall Jackson and his staff. The confederates had been preoccupied with Fremont's command approaching from the west. They had beaten Fremont at the Battle of Cross Keys the previous day and had been careless about Shields' approach from the north, which led to the close-run Battle of Port Republic.

27 posted on 01/21/2019 5:56:23 AM PST by sphinx
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To: ProtectOurFreedom; Caipirabob

There are many accounts through the centuries detailing the sort of things Indians did to captives.


28 posted on 01/21/2019 6:12:14 AM PST by fso301
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To: vannrox

Custer wrote articles for a hunting magazine. He boasted about perfecting the technique of shooting a buffalo with a pistol on a dead run. What he didn’t mention was that he shot 2 horses out from under him in perfecting the process.


29 posted on 01/21/2019 6:12:45 AM PST by IAGeezer912 (One out of every 20 people on the face of the earth are Americans. We have won life's lottery.)
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To: vannrox

One interesting thing I heard several times during military history and strategy classes was that Custer had two horse-drawn Gatling Guns available to him, but left them at the fort because he thought they’d slow him down.

Bet he regretted that decision later on.

Also, on the monuments at Little Big Horn listing the Indians killed there, is one brave named “Plenty Lice”.

Bet he was really popular.


30 posted on 01/21/2019 6:16:58 AM PST by chaosagent (Remember, no matter how you slice it, forbidden fruit still tastes the sweetest!)
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To: fso301
This was in a fiction book, but the author had done extensive research to support it. The torture scene was supposedly drawn from such first person accounts as you describe.

A quick Google search found this:

9. Tying Intestines Around a Tree

Okay, the technical term for this is disembowelment, which has been a pretty common practice throughout history. But there have been rare cases where the victims' intestines were pulled out, tied/nailed to a tree and then they were made to run around the tree which resulted in eventual death. The tree below is one in Cuylerville, NY, where in 1779, Lt. Thomas Boyd was tortured and killed when Seneca chief Little Beard tied his intestines around the tree and made him run around it.


31 posted on 01/21/2019 6:19:17 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: sphinx

Reno had ordered his detachment to dismount after he crossed the river, instead of charging hellbent into the Indian encampment. He turned his cavalry into badly outnumbered infantry, which got torn to pieces once the Indians counterattacked.


32 posted on 01/21/2019 6:24:51 AM PST by IronJack
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To: vannrox

How did the Indians obtain their superior firepower?


33 posted on 01/21/2019 6:25:55 AM PST by kenmcg (tHE WHOLE)
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It is amazing to me that almost every american knows about custer. Graduated last in his class and managed to get his entire company wiped out. How many know about Ranald S Mackenzie? In same west point class as custer , but graduated at top of class. was able to defeat and force onto reservation the comanche indian tribe without losing a single man at palo duro canyon. Found their winter camp and destroyed their food supplies and more importantly their pony herd. They were forced to walk to oklahoma reservation or starve.


34 posted on 01/21/2019 6:37:12 AM PST by ozarker
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To: kenmcg
How did the Indians obtain their superior firepower?

From gun runners.

35 posted on 01/21/2019 6:39:05 AM PST by painter ( Isaiah: �Woe to those who call evil good and good evil,")
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“If this man got a couple of miles away before shooting himself, his body may have been missed, but we just don’t know. It’s one of the remaining mysteries of the Custer fight.”

This may be of interest to you:

last survivor of custer’s last stand

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsWZ41mHY4M


36 posted on 01/21/2019 6:44:52 AM PST by sergeantdave (Teach a man to fish and he'll steal your gear and sell it)
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To: Pikachu_Dad

That’s not Custer - he was in Virginia in May, 1864.


37 posted on 01/21/2019 6:49:29 AM PST by bagman
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To: sphinx

Indeed so.

By the way, Custer was promoted 5 ranks that day !

It would have been interesting to see what Farnsworth would have contributed had he not had the misfortune of getting killed immediately.

The promotion was just before Gettysburg.

In the movie, they portray the promotion as a mistake, that the generals were going to punish Custer, and accidentally signed his name to the promotion document instead in the confusion of battle.

However, given that Pleasanton promoted all three at once, and that Custer was his aide, it seems to me the promotion was deliberate.

Custer immediately set to work making his special uniform.

However, it was just a few days later that Custer, in disobedience of a direct order to move his forces, stayed and helped fight Jebs cavalry in the east Gettysburg battle.

Lees plan was a pincer move. The Cavalry was to arrive in the rear.

Had not Custer stayed and stopped the confederate cavalry, the battle may have been lost. It was a close enough run as it was.

Custer led his cavalry charges in repeated charges and saved the day.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9flLRKJivI

https://www.sierratoysoldier.com/ourstore/pc/Custer-Charge-at-Gettysburg-c1234.htm


38 posted on 01/21/2019 6:51:00 AM PST by Pikachu_Dad ("the media are selling you a line of soap)
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To: vannrox

Bttt.

5.56mm


39 posted on 01/21/2019 6:57:39 AM PST by M Kehoe (DRAIN THE SWAMP! BUILD THE WALL!)
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How did the Indians obtain their superior firepower?

No background checks.

40 posted on 01/21/2019 7:04:07 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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