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To: TXnMA

Nope... the course makes no sense even on all the maps currently available. Let common sense prevail here. The Crystal makes an impact with another vessel hard enough to shake it from stem to stern. They make an almost 90 degree hard turn to starboard still under way, make a big loop back around 180 degrees to port, then make a circle and two more zig zags underway continuing a course north east up the coast.

If they had collided with the Fitzgerald where they claim it happened at the first hard 90 degree turn to starboard they would have came full stop to at least check for damage and integrity, not continue on and zig zag so much as if it never happened. This is because it didn’t happen until AFTER all this maneuvering and they finally came back on course north east.

The Fitzgerald was not hit where it is claimed it was hit. It was hit after it played cat and mouse with the Crystal causing it to change course several times.

Let me see if I still have the chart my source gave me. Like I say... He was tracking BOTH in real time.


14 posted on 01/12/2019 1:10:41 PM PST by Openurmind
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To: Openurmind; rlmorel
"Like I say... He was tracking BOTH in real time."

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As Artie Johnson used to say, "Werry Interestink!" Your friend was tracking a U.S. destroyer on patrol -- in real time... If so, he is the only person I've heard of with that capability.

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Please back up your claim by posting your matching data for "BOTH" vessels.
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The following chart is from the USN report -- based on on the AIS Speed, Position, & Course data for the ACX Crystal -- transmitted by their AIS Transponder -- and the speed, position & course reported by the Fitzgerald crew.

All reports I've seen indicate that, following military protocols, The USS Fitzgerald DID NOT have her AIS transponder turned ON at any time.

Where's your chart/data?

TXnMA
 

15 posted on 01/12/2019 8:57:52 PM PST by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current Alias | "Barack": Satan's minion | "Muslims": Satan's useful idiots...)
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