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Doctor Who New Year's special 'loses a MASSIVE 1.5 million viewers' [tr]
UK Daily Mail ^ | January 2, 2018 | Andrew Bullock

Posted on 01/02/2019 8:23:20 AM PST by C19fan

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To: StolarStorm

It took about three episodes for me to get used to her accent.


21 posted on 01/02/2019 9:12:05 AM PST by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Gone but not forgiven.)
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To: C19fan

Dont worry. Itll get better with the tranny, black Muslim Doctor.

Calling Michelle!


22 posted on 01/02/2019 9:14:20 AM PST by MNDude (WWG1WGAalso)
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To: HamiltonJay

It has been mediocre ever since they killed off Clara.


23 posted on 01/02/2019 9:19:01 AM PST by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Gone but not forgiven.)
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To: reg45

It was less than stellar before that, but yes, she was the last relatable Companion.... Billy was unrelatable on every level... and the Companion is what makes Dr Who... its what relates a 1000 year old alien with genius intellect to the audience... Clara was a little too plucky at times... but at least she “died” in character... not nearly as smart as she thought she was, and wound up dying because of her trying to be too clever... of course she’s not really dead of course, but taking advantage of that instant between life and death with the help of a time traveling companion to keep on living... but that’s another story.

Billy on the other hand... just not relatable...

And the current crop, just seem like PC shells... don’t care really for any of them... only thing we know about them is some PC incorrect past they all endured... who CARES... And I sure don’t want to hear the Doctor Whining how no on listens because she’s a woman, even though everyone is indeed listening to her...

Its PC pandering CRAPOLA at this point... its ratings will below the last seasons by next season...

Honestly... Even the special, where the DALEKS were the enemy, was BORING!... How the hell do you make the Daleks boring?? If you watched it, did you ever honestly have any sense of dread in it, even a remote sense of it? We all know it will all work out in the end, but honestly, it felt like a filler episode, not a special.

ANd that’s exactly why the show has been in steady decline... poor writing...


24 posted on 01/02/2019 9:27:51 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: HamiltonJay

Better writing won’t save it after the gender bend.


25 posted on 01/02/2019 9:31:53 AM PST by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: HamiltonJay

Right about the companions not being relatable. If any one of them or ALL them suddenly got EXTERMINATED, I wouldn’t care one bit. They are boring as all heck. Empty shells.


26 posted on 01/02/2019 9:33:04 AM PST by StolarStorm
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To: HamiltonJay

I think you are quite right on all points. Moffat was a genius writer of individual stories but he couldn’t write female characters (Amy, River, Clara...all sassy, witty - but their lines could practically be interchangeable) and as showrunner he allowed everything to slip after Series 5.

Russell was immensely strong as both writer and showrunner and, quite frankly, such has been the decline into the pompous dull moralizing that now passes for Doctor Who, I find myself yearning for the ‘gay agenda’ that Russell pushed. At least we were entertained during that era. Doctor Who is just not fun anymore.

Get rid of agendas and quotas, and, please, please, get rid of Chris Chibnall (the utter gall of the spotty oik, to criticize Pip and Jane Baker for their writing in the 1980s, when he churns out this turgid mess today). My ideal solution would be to give Neil Gaiman complete power over Doctor Who. He gets to choose the tone, the Doctor, the arc, everything, with no interference from the powers-that-be. Then, I think, we would see something very special indeed.

As it is, we now face a 2019 with no Who at all.

Great. Thanks, Chibnall.


27 posted on 01/02/2019 9:34:34 AM PST by Savrola
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To: RegulatorCountry

Actually, I found that episode to be kind of anti-PC, because, as you said, it was implying that Rosa Parks really wasn’t a hero, and needed a bunch of white people to help her out.

I actually like the female doctor, but that’s because we had to endure Matt Smith and Capaldi — if she was following David Tennant, I think I’d feel differently.

The writing in general has been pretty bad, not just the SJW stuff, but the story lines were weak, the plot rarely showing any real drama, like you knew everything would work out, that at least one person she promised to save would die, and in the end they’d ignore it all and go to the next adventure.

The show with the father and the blind girl though was well-written, and well-played, except for the bizarre creature inhabiting their version of the upside-down.


28 posted on 01/02/2019 9:35:17 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: C19fan

I’m not sure people watch TV as much on new years, but how would I know what british people are doing with their hangovers?

The story was kind of stupid, like I can’t figure out how the Doctor would NOT have known that a dalek nearly defeated the world, and was chopped up into 3 pieces, and buried with 24/7 watchers for centuries. That doesn’t seem like the kind of thing the savior of earth would have overlooked.


29 posted on 01/02/2019 9:37:07 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: gaijin

That scene was from Braveheart.


30 posted on 01/02/2019 9:40:29 AM PST by SauronOfMordor (Socialists want YOUR wealth redistributed, never THEIRS!)
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To: HamiltonJay

I actually think Moffat is an excellent WRITER, but was horrible at a consistent story arc. So when Davies was deciding the stories, and Moffat was writing the shows, it was great, but Moffat in charge started tweaking everything in bad, stupid, or unbelievable ways, often just so Moffat could say “look how surprised you are”. Like it is hard to surprise people by doing things entirely out of character and canon.


31 posted on 01/02/2019 9:41:53 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: HamiltonJay

That’s right, NO SENSE OF DREAD.

Like when the Doctor said “one dalek, 7 billion humans”, that was supposed to be “hopeful”, but it was actually right on. I mean, the Dalek had previously been defeated by an apparently non-Doctor-Who defended world, with 14th century weaponry. How was it possibly going to do anything but lose to a modern earth with the Doctor?

The show with the man protagonist stealing worlds was a bit more dreadful, in that you could imagine SOMEONE not coming out alive, but in the end, it still seemed like the whole thing ended so easily, with the two companions just like “yep he’s in stasis now all good to go”.


32 posted on 01/02/2019 9:47:05 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: C19fan

I’ve never watched the series, but checked the UK listings because I thought perhaps the reason for the low viewership yesterday was because the first episode of the final season of “Luther” with Idris Alba aired, but Dr. Who was on at 7 p.m. (UK time), and Luther wasn’t on until 9 p.m.


33 posted on 01/02/2019 9:47:34 AM PST by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: Olog-hai

Read yesterday that Moffat and Mark Gatiss (Sherlock), are working on a new mini-series adaptation of Dracula, and it won’t take place in the modern day. They’ve chosen Danish actor Claes Bang to play Dracula.


34 posted on 01/02/2019 9:55:48 AM PST by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: butlerweave
Yes but the writing is killing it a lot more than a Female Doctor

Yep.

I quit watching regularly when Peter Capaldi became The Doctor. And he seemed to be going through an emotional crises worthy of the most emo of teenagers on every episode.

After they killed off Clara I dropped it entirely.

35 posted on 01/02/2019 9:59:37 AM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Somewhere there's danger, somewhere there's injustice, and somewhere else the tea is getting cold.)
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To: Scott from the Left Coast
"That Movie was probably the worst telling of Mary Queen of Scots story that I’ve ever seen"

Thanks for letting me know. I'm taking it out of my saved DVD queue on Netflix right now.

36 posted on 01/02/2019 10:00:08 AM PST by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: C19fan
" ...report that the tally of viewers was 5.15 million on New Year's Day."

Hard to believe that there are 5.15 million scifi fans dumb enough to even tune to the channel this PC travesty is on!

37 posted on 01/02/2019 10:12:03 AM PST by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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To: gaijin

Also in BraveHeart where he deserved it even more.


38 posted on 01/02/2019 10:15:13 AM PST by epluribus_2 (he had the best mom - rever.)
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To: real saxophonist

Well that’s because of your excellent taste.

When I need to find an antidote to the current dross on TV, I can always put in a Tom Baker DVD, or even listen to a Big Finish audio adventure with him (he is still recording them).

Tom Baker remains the gold standard. (although my favorite doctor is probably No 2, Patrick Troughton).


39 posted on 01/02/2019 10:19:57 AM PST by Savrola
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To: reg45

Yup. She was a strong character, well acted, good story arc. Almost as good as Rose Tyler. It’s been junk ever since.


40 posted on 01/02/2019 10:27:19 AM PST by piytar (If it was not for double standards, the Democrats and the left would have NO standards.)
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