Posted on 11/17/2018 10:28:23 AM PST by bray
enough brayin
www.ForestsforOregon.net
Furthermore CalFire was putting out fires early in the dry season instead of setting fires in areas with dangerous buildup. They learned nothing from the Napa Valley tragedy. They also banned private burning in Butte county in early June while it was still safe to do so.
The blood is on their hands, mainly CARB and the county AQ board. They decided that a little smoke for a few weeks was too high a price to pay for the needed removal of brush, much of which grew in the 2015-2016 rainy season. Instead they burned scores of people alive. I think the current estimate of over 1000 missing is an overestimate. I am hoping anyway.
Go to that website and you will see a forester say those prescribed burns are the worst thing you can do.
The treehuggers wanted their forests that way, they got them. Tough noogies.
I think you (and Trump) hit the nail on the head. Bad forest management and government regs at the behest of groups like the Sierra Club are the problem and not the solution. Couple that with bad state Governors and it’s a recipe for this type of disaster. More will come if these things are not corrected. California in particular is a cesspool of leftist management. They rarely do anything right and when they do; it’s usually by accident.
I also agree the private sector would do a much better job because they would have skin in the game. Government only knows how to spend money. It has no clue on how to generate incoming revenue.
The mid east is strewn with the ruins of erthquake destroyed cities
Paradise is no different. It should be bulldozed and forgotten, a casualty of being in California
Remember that controlled fire also means letting natural fires burn when it is safe instead of putting out fires until it is unsafe. Note that the regulations, which apply to federal lands, also apply to natural starts, not just prescribed burns. The federal government has figured out, more or less, that low intensity fire is a big benefit to forests, including to spotted owls and all the rest of the wildlife.
California believes that clean air is more important than healthy forests, wildlife, and rural residents. Their regulations against burning when it is safe means more high intensity fire when it is unsafe.
I agree with the foresters that forestry and private ownership is the best solution by far. But until we have that, we need to let low intensity fire do its job.
http://www.pushback.com/Wattenburg/articles/NowTheyHaveBurnedLosAlamos.html
For me this is the definitive writing on managing forest fires. Dr. Wattenberg had let night radio show from the bay area. He worked at Lawrence Livermore Lans and was called the smartest man you can talk to for free (on the radio).
The state of Cal ignored him on gasoline additives and clearing underbrush from forests, He died 3 months ago, but his work is on the internet.
Agree with your essay except for giving the National Forest to the States to manage.
Kooky environmentalists in Oregon and California legislatures will be worse at managing than the Feds. Sell or lease them to private logging industries to manage.
Our state, Oregon, and Kate Brown cannot be trusted with our precious forrests.
There is a Constitutional Act called the Enabling Act which requires the state to sell it to the people. It is how every state was sold prior to the Civil War.
The only way DiFi would vote to privatized these badly mismanaged Federal lands is if the sales could be limited to only the Chinese companies her husband gets his money from.
There are three things that are never satisfied,
four that never say, ‘Enough!’:
the grave, the barren womb,
land, which is never satisfied with water,
and fire, which never says, ‘Enough!’
Proverbs 30
The best one is gone. He explained how they had a sanctuary forest set with the latest burn methods and the fire went right through it and stopped in his managed forest.
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There’s not much you can do when it doesn’t rain at all for eight months
I always joke here in CA that you can go anywhere on the east coast with a blowtorch and nothing will happen
It’s so dense and green you can’t even walk through it
Fire is simply a part of life in the west
The trees actually love fire
It rained like crazy a year ago.
Would be interesting to know how many trees survived in the burned forest. Forests that are burned often enough have fireproof trees for the most part.
Here in Virginia I only have five acres and I have to do mechanical clearing. I have to take out underbrush by hand (or hire someone with various machines), then pile it up and burn it. Or I have chipped it, all of it, even large cedar, with a giant rented chipper.
Any thinking person can easily understand and respect the vast difference between the “natural fires” of a hundred years ago and the all-consuming forest fires of today. When our forests were in fire equilibrium, frequent forest-cleansing ground fires (usually caused by lightening) reduced the combustible fuel load on the forest floor. Native Americans often torched brushy areas that Nature did not clean up in time. These natural fires periodically burned the brush, debris, and excessive numbers of small trees. This was mother nature’s way of cleaning house—without burning down the house. Anyone who walks through an old-growth forest can see the burn marks on the lower trunks of many big trees as evidence that the natural fires of long ago seldom reached the lower limbs of big trees which would cause them to ignite and in turn create a fire storm that incinerates everything else in the forest. Unfortunately, a fire storm is what usually happens today in forest fires during summertime.
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