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Army Serious About Fielding 6.8 Caliber Round
National Defense ^ | October 29, 2018 | Stew Magnuson

Posted on 10/30/2018 6:25:11 AM PDT by C19fan

“Right now, the feedback looks like we are going to a 6.8 caliber round,” Army Chief of Staff Gen. Mark Milley said recently.

The service has a list of its top six modernization priorities and “soldier lethality” is one of the items. The most high-profile program in that category is the squad automatic rifle. Army Secretary Mark Esper at the Association of the United States Army annual conference — while promising the service is speeding up the way it does acquisition — singled out the program as one that would see prototypes in the near future.

“The bottom line is that we are committed to a new rifle,” Milley told reporters.

(Excerpt) Read more at nationaldefensemagazine.org ...


TOPICS: Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: bullet; round
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The British developed the .280, 7 mm, round during the Post-World War II era. The Americans insisted on making the 7.62X51 MM round the NATO standard. Of course the Americans went even smaller round with the development of the 5.56X45 MM. Now the Americans want a bullet very similar to the .280 British.
1 posted on 10/30/2018 6:25:11 AM PDT by C19fan
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To: C19fan

I would think General Milley would know the difference between a round size in millimeters and a caliber, but perhaps not. A 6.8 caliber would be 6.8 inches in diameter.


2 posted on 10/30/2018 6:28:46 AM PDT by MortMan (Satan was merely the FIRST politician who pretended to speak for God.)
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To: C19fan

Is the term “caliber” proper here? I assume it is a 6.8mm round. I am used to hearing “caliber” referred to as inches.

Am I old fashioned? Did I miss the metric conversion of everything?


3 posted on 10/30/2018 6:30:08 AM PDT by Fido969 (In!)
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To: MortMan

A 6.8 caliber would be .068 inches in diameter. Fixed it for you. :)


4 posted on 10/30/2018 6:30:51 AM PDT by Magnum44 (My comprehensive terrorism plan: Hunt them down and kill them)
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To: C19fan

I presume (cause its bad to ASSume) that the General is referring to the 6.8 mm SPC.


5 posted on 10/30/2018 6:33:20 AM PDT by Magnum44 (My comprehensive terrorism plan: Hunt them down and kill them)
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A 6.8 caliber would be .068 inches in diameter. Fixed it for you. :)

You "fixed" it wrong.

6.8 caliber would be 6.8 inches. The same as .50 caliber is roughly 1/2 an inch.

However, it is more likely "6.8" = 6.8 MILLIMETERS which would equal ~.267 or ~.268 caliber.

6 posted on 10/30/2018 6:36:10 AM PDT by Repeat Offender (While the wicked stand confounded, call me with Thy saints surrounded.)
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To: Magnum44

“I presume (cause its bad to ASSume) that the General is referring to the 6.8 mm SPC.”

That is what I think. Otherwise it would be larger than the .50 caliber Browning. Hehehehe


7 posted on 10/30/2018 6:36:43 AM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: Magnum44

Uh, excuse me. .45 caliber is .458 “ in diameter.

Thus, 6.8 caliber would be 69.2”.

Obviously they mean 6.8mm, as in 5.56 and 7.51........


8 posted on 10/30/2018 6:37:25 AM PDT by Arlis
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To: C19fan

The army experimented with a .17 caliber round in the middle 70’s.

I picked up a few cases from a range on Hunter Liggett. Found a couple of FMJ 17 caliber bullets in the backstop, too, as I recall.

I was running a Meteorological Team in support of Army RDT&E there at the time.


9 posted on 10/30/2018 6:40:11 AM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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I purchased a 6mm Swedish Mauser back in the 80's from Woolworths for $60. The gun holds tighter groupings than my 30-06 Springfield at 100 yards.

Not much punch as a deer or big game rifle, but cheap ammo and great varmint round.

10 posted on 10/30/2018 6:43:27 AM PDT by blackdog
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To: Repeat Offender
6.8 caliber would be 6.8 inches. The same as .50 caliber is roughly 1/2 an inch.

Ok, I stand corrected. 22 cal is really .22 cal which equal .22" but is simply referred to as 22 caliber.

11 posted on 10/30/2018 6:43:35 AM PDT by Magnum44 (My comprehensive terrorism plan: Hunt them down and kill them)
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To: MortMan

He accidentally let slip the new “Super Soldiers” created to carry the big 6.8’s.


12 posted on 10/30/2018 6:45:26 AM PDT by NativeSon ( Grease the floor with Crisco when I dance the Disco)
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To: MortMan

“A 6.8 caliber would be 6.8 inches in diameter.”

Sheesh! Don’t you know that’s to kill extra large enemy soldiers.

Seriously, later in the article it refers to it as 6.8mm.

I credit the journalist with this little error, as they are not among the brightest on earth.


13 posted on 10/30/2018 6:46:14 AM PDT by redfreedom
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To: Arlis

I stand corrected. “22 cal” is really “.22 cal” which equals .22 inch but is simply referred to (verbally) as 22 caliber.

But the caliber is the inside diameter of the bore, land to land. Not the bullet diameter. So .45 caliber ammunition has a bullet that is slightly larger in diameter so it will form to the rifling of the barrel when fired.


14 posted on 10/30/2018 6:47:28 AM PDT by Magnum44 (My comprehensive terrorism plan: Hunt them down and kill them)
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To: MortMan

According to Wikipedia, caliber can be expressed in inches OR millimeters.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caliber


15 posted on 10/30/2018 6:50:21 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Trump: "In the meantime, I'm president and you're not!")
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To: C19fan

Let’s hope that this is not the 6.8 SPC round, as that has only slightly better aerodynamics than a brick. Build a round that can fit into a standard M4 magazine that has a bullet with a coefficient of drag closer to that of a 6.5 mm bullet, and you will have a winner.

There should also be a lot of winners in the civilian marketplace, as the military sells off all of its 5.56 mm uppers and ammo. Given Trump’s propensity for wanting to make government more efficient, there is no reason not to sell off unneeded surplus and recoup the money.


16 posted on 10/30/2018 6:50:21 AM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt, The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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To: Arlis

“Thus, 6.8 caliber would be 69.2”

It would be kind of tough to carry spare ammunition. But it certainly be effective! :^)


17 posted on 10/30/2018 6:51:16 AM PDT by mkmensinger
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To: redfreedom

I was referring to the quote in the opening sentence, which implies the general made the mistake.

But, reporters are well known for misquoting as well, so the reporter could have made the error.

I know I wouldn’t want to lug a 6.8 caliber rifle or ammunition, though! ;-P


18 posted on 10/30/2018 6:51:23 AM PDT by MortMan (Satan was merely the FIRST politician who pretended to speak for God.)
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To: Fresh Wind
According to Wikipedia, caliber can be expressed in inches OR millimeters.

T'is true. But caliber has a double meaning, sort of. It refers to the inside diameter of the bore, land to land. and its units are caliber (English) or mm (metric).

19 posted on 10/30/2018 6:53:08 AM PDT by Magnum44 (My comprehensive terrorism plan: Hunt them down and kill them)
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I know I wouldn’t want to lug a 6.8 caliber rifle or ammunition, though!

If you transformed yourself into a Main Battle Tank, you could carry one ... If you transformed yourself into a Light Cruiser, you could carry a battery of them.

20 posted on 10/30/2018 6:55:24 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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