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The Truth About Soy Boys
Paul Joseph Watson ^ | Published on Nov 16, 2017 | Paul Joseph Watson

Posted on 10/08/2018 11:11:10 PM PDT by Morgana

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To: Mase
Males shouldn't eat or drink soy products because of the phytoestrogens which are a form of female hormones. Women predisposed to breast cancer should not consume soy either because phytoestrogens promote cancer cell growth.
 
41 posted on 10/09/2018 10:20:05 AM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie (I don't know nothin' 'bout birthin' babies!)
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Males shouldn't eat or drink soy products because of the phytoestrogens which are a form of female hormones.

No, this is nothing but media driven misinformation. For men and boys, the phytoestrogens in soy do not appear to have any effect on hormone levels and have not been shown to affect sexual development or fertility.

Isoflavones are dissimilar from estrogen in many ways. Unlike estrogen, isloflavones are tissue selective and can have estrogen-like effects in some tissue but either no effects or antiestrogenic effects in other tissues. Isoflavones are referred to as phytoestrogens because they bind to estrogen receptors and exert estrogen like effects under some conditions. However, the ability of a chemical to bind to hormone receptors, such as the estrogen receptor, won't tell you much about potency or any resulting biological activity.

Women predisposed to breast cancer should not consume soy either because phytoestrogens promote cancer cell growth.

Yes, it is a commonly accepted view that food containing isoflavones, specifically genistein, mimics estrogen and accelerates breast cancer in susceptible women. (Those already with cancer that are estrogen receptor positive). This view, however, ignores Asian women who eat a diet heavy in soybean based foods, and therefore have a higher exposure to genistein, but do not share this same experience with breast cancer.

In Okinawa, soy makes up about 12% of the diet of elder Okinawans yet they experience 80 percent less breast cancer and prostate cancer, and less than half the ovarian cancer and colon cancer, than we do in north America. Go figure.

42 posted on 10/09/2018 11:31:09 AM PDT by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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There are phytoestrogens in soy. Can’t imagine why you’d dispute this.


43 posted on 10/09/2018 1:21:46 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (Trump hates negative publicity, unless he generates it. -Corey Lewandowski)
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And who pays for the “studies” at universities? Soy companies, pharmaceutical companies — all looking for an outcome.


44 posted on 10/09/2018 1:23:59 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (Trump hates negative publicity, unless he generates it. -Corey Lewandowski)
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Yes, there are phytoestrogens in soy. But phytoestrogens are not estrogen. The phytoestrogens found in soy are comprised of three isoflavones, Daidzein, Genistein and Glycitein. There are three primary estrogens produced in the female body: Estrone, Estradiol and Estriol.

As I posted earlier, Isoflavones and estrogen are very different. Confusing them causes much of the unnecessary fear regarding soy.

45 posted on 10/09/2018 3:17:38 PM PDT by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: Albion Wilde
All research is paid for by someone so disqualifying it on funding rather than merit is a logical fallacy as well as an ethical smear on the researchers. Are some researchers for sale, and can methodology and data be manipulated to produce the desired outcome? Sure, but that's why we have a peer review process.

Having an education in the life sciences will help as will lots of training outside the classroom. But research is so specialized today that it becomes more and more challenging to separate the legitimate from those looking for a desired outcome. This one isn't that tough, however. With what we know to be true at this time, soy isn't responsible for the many maladies the alarmists accuse it of.

46 posted on 10/09/2018 3:24:13 PM PDT by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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Maybe raw soy sprouts is fine as a vegetable, but concentrated in soy milk has caused breast growth in black military men I know and told me to stay away

As for me, any kind of vegetable based protein is bad for me due to my blood disorder worsening with beans , lentilles and soy


47 posted on 10/09/2018 3:39:57 PM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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It’s just that I saw it first-hand with my relative, manboobs and all. Every symptom claimed in the article and the video at the link, he had. And he died too young, after living in misery on a heavily soy vegan diet. So there’s that. And having seen it and mourned it, you’re not going to convince me otherwise, so stop trying.


48 posted on 10/09/2018 7:28:21 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (Trump hates negative publicity, unless he generates it. -Corey Lewandowski)
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