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Scientists invent way to create 'unlimited renewable energy'
FoxNews.com/Science ^ | Sept 7, 2018 | Lauren Tousignant

Posted on 09/09/2018 7:19:16 AM PDT by ETL

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To: Chad N. Freud

https://simple.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reduction_(chemistry)


41 posted on 09/09/2018 9:16:03 AM PDT by aquila48
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To: chaosagent

Quibble they ‘exist’ but are effectively useless and nothing says they will ever work beyond the theory.


42 posted on 09/09/2018 9:19:37 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: PIF

Quibble You said “fusion reactors do not exist”

‘Existing’ and ‘Not Existing’ are finite states. Something either exists or it doesn’t exist.

It’s a binary state, not a quantum one.

‘Effectively useless’ is completely different.


43 posted on 09/09/2018 9:29:19 AM PDT by chaosagent (Remember, no matter how you slice it, forbidden fruit still tastes the sweetest!)
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To: chaosagent

Living up to your handle. I see.


44 posted on 09/09/2018 9:32:52 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: Chad N. Freud

In chemistry, the word “reduce” refers to the change in the charge state of an ion, atom or molecule trough the gain or loss of one or more electrons. In the case of a naked proton, it has a charge of +1. Pairing it with an electron creates a hydrogen atom, with a charge of zero.

Since the charge of the particle the proton is part of went from +1 to zero, it is considered to have been reduced. The chemical term for the opposite of reduction is oxidation.

https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reduction_(chemistry)


45 posted on 09/09/2018 9:37:29 AM PDT by Go_Raiders (The fact is, we really don't know anything. It's all guesswork and rationalization.)
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To: Artemis Webb

The scientists just have to figure out how to tap into all that there Dark Energy that supposedly suffuses the universe.


46 posted on 09/09/2018 9:39:25 AM PDT by ThanhPhero
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To: chaosagent
Agreed... just making a point here...

As with any process, you have to consider the total energy required.

Although free, how much mass does the whole process add to the weight of the vehicle? That includes a stable “earth-like” environment for the reaction to occur, containment systems, waste management, etc. Does it follow the laws of diminishing returns and the added energy produced is consumed by the accelerating the mass of the reaction system.

Remember that you have to produce more energy than you consume.

Also, what about fault tolerance and system redundancy? After all, the survival of the mission and the astronauts depends on it. If lost, are the reaction materials easily recovered or reproduced?

Fusion has a better chance of success, IMHO. Simple is better.

47 posted on 09/09/2018 9:40:24 AM PDT by dhs12345
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To: dhs12345; organicchemist; aquila48; Go_Raiders

Many thanks!


48 posted on 09/09/2018 9:44:42 AM PDT by Chad N. Freud (FR is the modern equivalent of the Committees of Correspondence. Let other analogies arise.)
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To: PIF

This is not fusion. It is said to be a plasma. There is a connection to the investigation of the solar corona temperature anomaly. It is not a result of a high voltage discharge, thus not a flash-lamp. The test item operates slightly above atmospheric pressure. One device melted or fractured when operation exceeded a reaction material threshold and produced a runaway. Interesting!

49 posted on 09/09/2018 9:53:14 AM PDT by Ozark Tom
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To: Ozark Tom

The problem with current Fusion technology for electrical production is that it requires heating water to make steam to spin a a generator. We need a better and more direct conversion process. Has to be controlled too.


50 posted on 09/09/2018 10:03:00 AM PDT by dhs12345
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To: Chad N. Freud

Reduced, as in splitting away the one element combined with another element which together form a chemical compound. The reduction is the process of separating the different chemical elements into individual camps, while at the same time neutralizing electrical charge of those atoms.


51 posted on 09/09/2018 10:03:10 AM PDT by Ozark Tom
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To: Ozark Tom

Interesting. Whatever it is ... mostly harmless and, at present, useless.


52 posted on 09/09/2018 10:03:42 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: Regulator
Too many good scenes from Kelly’s Heroes

I constantly use that line, "Oh, man, I just ride in 'em. I don't know what makes 'em work." whenever our IT guy comes by and expects me .. a 64-year old who, until about 10 years ago, did all of my typing on a Royal 550 manual and then a Selectic 3 .. to understand the ins-and-outs of using a computer.

After he's given me a long, unintelligible (to me) dissertation about what I need to do to make my computer perform better, I simply look at him and say, "Oh, man, I just ride in 'em. I don't know what makes 'em work. Want to see my other dog imitation?"

53 posted on 09/09/2018 10:32:47 AM PDT by BlueLancer (Democrats are National Socialists)
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To: ETL

So that’s why the aliens are always trying to steal our water.


54 posted on 09/09/2018 10:42:19 AM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (The first step in ending the war on white people is to recognize it exists.)
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To: BlueLancer

Heh that’s funny too

Whenever I sense that were in a pickle, I say “Make a deal, Kelly!”

Wisdom from CrapGame...


55 posted on 09/09/2018 10:45:00 AM PDT by Regulator
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To: BlueLancer
Love your tagline.

And great photo!

56 posted on 09/09/2018 11:42:58 AM PDT by BroJoeK ((a little historical perspective...))
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To: dhs12345
Fission places a large percentage of energy in neutrons and fuel fragments, which once absorbed, produce heat for steam, helium, CO2 cycles to drive a generator. Fission is not fusion. Fission plasma is not a good thing.

So far as revealed, fusion explosion processes are the only success for net energy. Reveal a working fusion plasma technology producing x-ray and energetic charged-particles; and, several methods to directly extract that energy as electricity can be applied.

57 posted on 09/09/2018 8:51:15 PM PDT by Ozark Tom
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To: ETL

“could eventually”

sort of like flying cars, right?


58 posted on 09/09/2018 10:11:14 PM PDT by catnipman ((Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!))
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To: Ozark Tom

Xray = electrons. Elections produce emf when they are moving in a conductor. Maybe through induction coupling to avoid direct contact with the plasma. Problem: it happens in a fraction of a second and alot.


59 posted on 09/10/2018 6:23:13 AM PDT by dhs12345
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