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Pros & Cons of sawed-off shotgun (18 inch or longer barrel) and appropriate use(s)
Gun Project | 12 August 2018 | Mene Mene Tekel Upharsin

Posted on 08/12/2018 5:38:29 PM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Well, we did it. We took my Spanish 12ga shotgun with the 27.5" barrel and cut it off. Now, it has a 19" barrel and the end has been filed and finished and it is ready to go. The intended purpose is for home defense, or in a still rare case, if some group of people are causing a problem/rioting out in society as a secondary weapon. In some literary circles, such is called a "Coach Gun".

It appears some characters in history over 100 years ago determined that a cut down shotgun would be an effective weapon a close ranges when only 1-2 shots were needed to take care of a criminal who didn't know when to run. To all of us who know guns, if faced with a double-barreled 12ga at close range, and upon being informed it has 00 Buck in it, one tends to find a way to de-escalate that disagreement or run like hell. Without getting into all of the legalities and exceptions, suffice it to say that the barrel must be 18" or longer (1/8" under is a felony) and the overall length if with buttstock is 26" (Mine fits both parameters).

No long shots here. But, in the case of a home invasion or someone trying to carjack you and you can get your hands on it, it is the perfect weapon. No night sights needed. Other than that, I can see little use for it.


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Any comments are additional information from knowledgeable folks would be most appreciated. "Coach guns" are going for quite a bit of money these days, so their popularity is returning for some reason. I kept my cost down by finding functioning off-brand 12ga double and modifying with the help of friend with the proper equipment a bottle of water. Have at it.
1 posted on 08/12/2018 5:38:29 PM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Sawed-off shotguns are illegal in some states (California), so it depends.


2 posted on 08/12/2018 5:40:27 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Can you post a pic?

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3 posted on 08/12/2018 5:40:42 PM PDT by Lurker (President Trump isn't our last chance. President Trump is THEIR last chance.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
"Coach guns" are going for quite a bit of money these days, so their popularity is returning for some reason.

Cowboy Action Shooting. Used to be you could pick up a nice short-barreled double for a song. Now it's a song plus about three hundred buckadingdongs.

4 posted on 08/12/2018 5:41:16 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Lurker

Publishing a picture could be injurious to someone’s health. Another person and/or myself. If you wish to PM me and insert an e-mail, I’ll send it to you.


5 posted on 08/12/2018 5:43:50 PM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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>>But, in the case of a home invasion or someone trying to carjack you and you can get your hands on it, it is the perfect weapon.

How big do you think the pattern is at the length of the longest hallway in your home?


6 posted on 08/12/2018 5:44:48 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (Asking a pro athlete for political advice is like asking a cavalry horse for tactical advice.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Active noise suppression headphones...


7 posted on 08/12/2018 5:45:58 PM PDT by Paladin2 (no spelchek, no problem...)
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To: Billthedrill

I have a Rossi coach gun. 18” or so. $200 used.

Staring into 2 12gauge barrels would send any criminal heading for the hills, But the sound of a pump shotgun’ being racked has an even better effect.


8 posted on 08/12/2018 5:46:12 PM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

My father had one he kept down under the seat of the truck. Rural North Mississippi. That man always brought some different kind of gun every week


9 posted on 08/12/2018 5:47:27 PM PDT by Sybeck1
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If you are going to shoot magnum shells out of it, make sure you put a pistol grip forend on it, because missing that extra weight on the front end makes the barrel rise so hard that it’s difficult to maintain a grip on it, especially if your hands are sweaty.


10 posted on 08/12/2018 5:51:31 PM PDT by chris37 ("I am everybody." -Mark Robinson)
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Yep, that’s the one I have too, and that’s a perfect example. I don’t think Rossi makes them anymore. A Stoeger coach gun - similar model - will run you five bills plus these days. Geesh.


11 posted on 08/12/2018 5:53:11 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Bryanw92

“How big do you think the pattern is at the length of the longest hallway in your home?”

Not very.


12 posted on 08/12/2018 5:53:24 PM PDT by Jim Noble (p)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

I’m curious about
“Bottle of Water?”


13 posted on 08/12/2018 6:00:33 PM PDT by Big Red Badger (UNSCANABLE in an IDIOCRACY)
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https://www.americaremembers.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/no1large-1024x346.jpg


14 posted on 08/12/2018 6:00:58 PM PDT by BipolarBob (In other news Satan is opening a Skating Rink in downtown Hell.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Good modification if it’s intended use his personal defense. Mostly because it gives the user better mobility. It won’t hurt your ballistics or do anything to your accuracy if you were starting with a cylinder bore.


15 posted on 08/12/2018 6:01:12 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: Vaquero

I don’t think so


16 posted on 08/12/2018 6:05:07 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1)
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To: Big Red Badger
I’m curious about
“Bottle of Water?”

Poured as blade is cutting...no overheating of barrel.

17 posted on 08/12/2018 6:05:34 PM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: chris37
If you are going to shoot magnum shells out of it,

No, just 2.75 shells already shot out of it when at 27.5". It kicks VERY hard even like that. Haven't shot it shortened, yet. lol.

18 posted on 08/12/2018 6:06:32 PM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: Bryanw92

No real hallways at all in house. Neat design. Room-to-room-to-room. The only thing that can be called a hallway is about 4’ square.


19 posted on 08/12/2018 6:07:59 PM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

.
Trench gun - Foxhole Gun- back yard gun.


20 posted on 08/12/2018 6:08:03 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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