Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Who Should Pay for the Mistakes on NASA’s Next Big Telescope?
The Atlantic ^ | 7/18 | Marina Koren

Posted on 07/27/2018 3:59:09 PM PDT by LibWhacker

The space agency has always coughed up the extra cash, but some politicians wonder if the contractor responsible for major errors should pitch in.

If everything had gone according to plan, the most powerful space telescope would be in orbit right now, perched about 1 million miles from Earth, peering deep into the universe, and returning home mesmerizing photos of glittering stars and galaxies.

Instead, it’s still in a factory in California, waiting to receive more money so engineers can finish building it.

The James Webb Space Telescope, NASA’s next big astronomy mission, has been in the works for two decades. When the concept was first proposed in 1996 as the successor to the famed Hubble Space Telescope, scientists estimated it would cost $500 million and fly by 2007. But as scientists worked on the telescope’s design, the world around them began to change. Astronomers were making exhilarating discoveries about the cosmos, and engineers were inventing the technology needed to study them. Webb’s stewards believed the telescope could do more than originally envisioned, so they expanded its parameters.

As the years passed and the scope of the mission swelled, so did the cost. By the start of this year, Webb had a price tag of $8.8 billion and a launch date of spring 2019. Most of the telescope—its gold-plated mirrors and scientific instruments—had been completed and tested. But there was trouble with the tennis-court-sized shield that’s supposed to protect it from the heat of the sun, and with the spacecraft that will house the observatory’s various systems. It was enough trouble that last month, NASA officials made a disappointing announcement: Webb would be delayed, again, this time to spring 2021. And it’s would be even more expensive.

(Excerpt) Read more at theatlantic.com ...


TOPICS: Astronomy; Science
KEYWORDS: cost; overruns; telescope; webb
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-32 next last

1 posted on 07/27/2018 3:59:09 PM PDT by LibWhacker
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: LibWhacker

Mexico.


2 posted on 07/27/2018 4:04:38 PM PDT by Dogbert41 (When the strong man, fully armed, guards his own dwelling, his goods are safe. -Luke 11:21)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: LibWhacker

The Sunk Cost Fallacy

https://youarenotsosmart.com/2011/03/25/the-sunk-cost-fallacy/


3 posted on 07/27/2018 4:04:51 PM PDT by Moonman62 (Give a man a fish and he'll be a Democrat. Teach a man to fish and he'll be a responsible citizen.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: LibWhacker

From an original cost estimate of $500 Million, now over 8.8
BILLION!! Mr. President, this telescope project is clearly out of control, and just keeping people employed. Please end it asap! Put a collar and a short tight leash around this barking dog. The original idea is outmoded anyway.
Technology is changing every few months now.


4 posted on 07/27/2018 4:07:23 PM PDT by lee martell
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: lee martell

From an original cost estimate of $500 Million, now over 8.8 Billion.

They must think it’s the VA hospital in Denver


5 posted on 07/27/2018 4:12:43 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle ( The Great Wall of Trump ---- 100% sealing of the border. Coming soon.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: LibWhacker

The risk should be managed through insurance policies.

If no one is willing to insure against cost overruns at any reasonable price, then the project should not be done.


6 posted on 07/27/2018 4:13:28 PM PDT by thoughtomator (Number of arrested coup conspirators to date: 1)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: LibWhacker

NASA should be asking the Muzzies for technical and financial help.

In return for the NASA “investments” in Islam.


7 posted on 07/27/2018 4:15:02 PM PDT by Paladin2 (no spelchek, no problem...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: LibWhacker

We don’t need no steenking contract


8 posted on 07/27/2018 4:36:17 PM PDT by antidemoncrat
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: LibWhacker

Shut it down until the Nation’s annual budget is balanced and/or has an 8.8 billion dollar surplus...


9 posted on 07/27/2018 4:39:14 PM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Balding_Eagle

Lol!


10 posted on 07/27/2018 4:47:26 PM PDT by lee martell
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: LibWhacker
NASA has discontinued some projects because of contractor troubles in the past, but they were usually in the beginning stages, like the Radiation Budget Instrument, a large sensor that had been scheduled to launch in 2021 to study how Earth absorbs and reflects solar energy.

I would guess that this project got cancelled after the Global Warming Nazis in NASA got wind of it.

We can’t have any new scientific evidence that refutes CO2 driven global warming.

11 posted on 07/27/2018 5:00:07 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: LibWhacker

They will blame Trump if at all possible.


12 posted on 07/27/2018 5:06:11 PM PDT by I want the USA back (This week's hysterical obsession: sex tape. Last week's: tweet on iranian threat.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: LibWhacker

Too bad. Astrophysics is so interesting.


13 posted on 07/27/2018 5:07:13 PM PDT by onedoug
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: LibWhacker

If you bid on building something for a particular cost, you should HAVE to deliver it. And once a contract is signed it should *literally* require an act of Congress to make ANY changes.

Make a plan, stick to it. Contracts should be sacred- both in payment and performance- no deviations, no changes, under harshest penalty of law.


14 posted on 07/27/2018 5:09:53 PM PDT by RedStateRocker
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: LibWhacker

Remember when the famed Hubble Space Telescope was launched without proper testing and it was found the lens were not aligned right? A shuttle flight was needed to give it corrective lens and mirrors.


15 posted on 07/27/2018 5:11:11 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: RedStateRocker

The government changes the scope on most contracts constantly.


16 posted on 07/27/2018 5:14:44 PM PDT by wgmalabama (The government murdered Robert LaVoy Finicum - what makes you think you are not next?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: All

I’m hoping that what really happened is that they spent 8.6 billion on space weapons.


17 posted on 07/27/2018 5:15:29 PM PDT by LegendHasIt
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: LibWhacker

Northrop Grumman. NASA, Fed Gov....


18 posted on 07/27/2018 5:21:36 PM PDT by AFreeBird
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

“Remember when the famed Hubble Space Telescope was launched without proper testing and it was found the lens were not aligned right? A shuttle flight was needed to give it corrective lens and mirrors.”

Oddly the Hubble had been a scientific bonanza once it was given “corrective lens.” The real hell of it is the taxpayer picked up the price for a contractors error. They ground the mirror to the wrong specs! The contractor should have been bankrupted for the error.


19 posted on 07/27/2018 5:34:10 PM PDT by cpdiii (Cane Cutter, Deckhand,Roughneck, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist: THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: RedStateRocker

I can tell you have never built off a government design. I have.

You get a design that was held up for two years of government infighting. The technical standards and products made have all subtly changed. The As-built plans furnished by the government were done by people now dead and incorrectly show the size, flow direction and location of utilities. For the technical projects the changes needed to build it useable can cost 10% to 40% of the whole project.

As a contractor I found that demolition of a high pressure fire main serving three other buildings as directed to build my building was often not desired. Instead the added rerouted line and by-pass valves to keep water service in place was preferred but took more time and money. The examples from just project I ran can fill a book.

I once waited three months for the government, their facilities people, the Air Force, and the Corps of Engineers to decide on the chacteristices and exact type of an underground three block long electrical feed they forgot to include in a complex design. We agreed to the 340,000 it woul cost — we worked through the night and weekend to install it and spent agony testing and get it going and 36 hours after we were done they requested we tear it all out and redo it in different manner.


20 posted on 07/27/2018 5:42:14 PM PDT by KC Burke (If all the world is a stage, I would like to request my lighting be adjusted.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-32 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson