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American hunter's images of her black giraffe 'trophy kill' spark outrage
http://www.foxnews.com ^ | 9 hours ago | By Hollie McKay

Posted on 07/01/2018 7:59:54 PM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK

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To: ATOMIC_PUNK

Sorry. She looks NOT GUILTY to me.


61 posted on 07/01/2018 9:18:43 PM PDT by Seruzawa (TANSTAAFL!)
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To: Equine1952

Well, they’re not. Just ignorant and a little holier than thou.


62 posted on 07/01/2018 9:20:03 PM PDT by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victikms, and control freaks.)
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To: yesthatjallen

Guess we should pay hunters to cull more boar then right?

To reduce the deer populations you could always use California method, block mountain lion hunting. That wiped out the deer herds pretty fast. And a bunch of poodles and hikers too...


63 posted on 07/01/2018 9:20:30 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: Lurker

Some of the states in the Yellowstone ecosystem are having grizzly bear hunts this year. I am eligible to apply for a tag. I won’t because I don’t eat them. Not so with elk, deer, brook/rainbow/brown or cutthroat trout, pine grouse, pheasant, turkey and Hungarian partridge. If you eat meat, some one killed it or you did. Please eat cabbage and leave the elk to me. Thanks


64 posted on 07/01/2018 9:20:57 PM PDT by Equine1952 (Get yourself a ticket on a common mans train of thought.)
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To: Ransomed

[[What would you think if they showed up and asked to pay you to do this job? Kinda odd, right?]]

That wasn’t the point of my statement- as explained above-

Trophy hunters are different- Yes they pay for the experience- BUT the experience is more than just going out and shooting the trophy and going home in an hour or so- it’s the whole African (or wherever they hunt) experience- days hunting in beautiful places- seeing things you’ve never seen before, experiencing life on a different level- meeting new people and learning about different societies- etc etc, and at the end of the day getting to take home a reminder of that whole experience- -

[[The responsible management of domestic and wild species includes culling.]]

Which is what almost all trophy hunters engage in nowadays (Those who hunt legally) as hunting trophies is a tightly regulated process and is part of the culling process-


65 posted on 07/01/2018 9:21:38 PM PDT by Bob434
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To: Equine1952; Lurker

LOL It’s just bizarre that you posted that to Lurker.


66 posted on 07/01/2018 9:26:01 PM PDT by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victikms, and control freaks.)
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To: chris37

I have killed many a cow, but not with my own hands, I hire a contract killer. It’s easy, just go to a burger joint.

Did you know that giraffe meat is kosher?


67 posted on 07/01/2018 9:27:28 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: Bob434

Like I said it depends on the difficulty level of the hunt. It can’t be I ‘got to see Africa and slaughter a gimpy tame giraffe for only $40,000’ and not be a complete weirdo in my book. I mean they are paying them to kill this animal, which probably needs to be killed no matter what. Unless it is a challenge why would anyone pay for that? I mean come on.

Freegards


68 posted on 07/01/2018 9:29:30 PM PDT by Ransomed
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To: chris37

All meat eaters should be required to butcher a few animals. I have raised my own meat for a few years. Never liked killing animals. I also have never met a hunter that likes hunting so that they can kill.

If you think that is why they hunt, you understand nothing.


69 posted on 07/01/2018 9:32:53 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: MileHi

I an ahole my wife says so and she never lies. When I drive by angus standing in a pasture I see tbone, roast, and hamburger. Never met a ham sandwich I didn’t like. I love Chick fa la. Halibut’s is great but perch and channel cat rule. Told you my wife never lies.


70 posted on 07/01/2018 9:33:54 PM PDT by Equine1952 (Get yourself a ticket on a common mans train of thought.)
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK

I would like to invite her to dinner so she can tell me all about her hunt...


71 posted on 07/01/2018 9:36:05 PM PDT by youngidiot (God will bless you for doing what you ought to be doing any damned way. He's amazing.)
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To: ransomnote

You can kill for food and still want a souvenir from the experience.

Dad used to take me squirrel hunting before I was big enough to have a gun of my own. I kept the tails as a reminder of my time with him. Later I used them to tie trout flies.

Old guy used to hunt our place for turkey, he ate every bird and took the beards to hang on his wall... I don’t see anything wrong with that.

Now if he’d shot the hens, he’d lose hunting privileges.
If he had shot a Tom, and then wasted the meat, he’d lose hunting privileges whether or not he took the beard for a trophy. If he took potshots at songbirds or varmints or killed snakes on my land I’d have kicked him off but he was a good man and never killed except for supper.

I have seen some arseholes who shot deer and only took the hams, and the waste sickens me because there was meat remaining that I could have eaten if they hadn’t left it to spoil, and hide that could have been tanned. But then the meat and skin really wasn’t wasted as it provided food for assorted predators and scavengers, and they have to eat, too. Still, I wouldn’t do it and wouldn’t let that sort hunt my place, but I was being harsh to judge if that was his own land or if he had permission.


72 posted on 07/01/2018 9:39:55 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK

When 298 words are too much to read to grasp the context, it makes many here look like utter idiots.

If you fools can’t get it right about an animal, how are you going to get it right on more tangible things such as...well, if you don’t know what’s important, then what’s the point???

Until tonight I thought emotional “outrage” was the realm of the left; I was wrong.

Note to others: Read before commenting.


73 posted on 07/01/2018 9:41:27 PM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus-)
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To: Equine1952

Drive by cattle every time I leave the house, calves on their own legs now. Pronghorn and deer are here but the elk have gone back up into the high timber. The fires might drive them down though, have some bad ones close by.

I have a great bull tag for elk season, took seven years to draw it, muzzle loading.


74 posted on 07/01/2018 9:44:04 PM PDT by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victikms, and control freaks.)
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To: dragnet2

I did not direct the comment to you, on purpose, because you said it was your personal preference not to kill animals in most cases.

If you had gotten my meaning you would have “seen” why I was quoting how the kill would help this herd of animals increase.

So my comment was actually directed at anyone who thinks this one act hurt the giraffe ecosystem.


75 posted on 07/01/2018 9:44:51 PM PDT by deks
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To: American in Israel

Did I say that?

Who the f*** are you even talking to?

Here is what I posted-

“I have also hunted, nothing larger than small game, and in some cases I have eaten what I have hunted. Dove, squirrel, rabbit.

But any animal greater than a deer, my imaginary line, I suppose, I am neither interested in or respectful of killing when it does not need or require killing for a specific reason.

I understand that culling is sometimes required, and I’m okay with that, but I am not okay with trophy hunting. I would rather the animal spirit remain in its vessel.”

This is the post that you responded to which contains nothing that you are talking about.

So if you have something to say about what I wrote, then say it, otherwise shut the f*** up.


76 posted on 07/01/2018 9:47:13 PM PDT by chris37 ("I am everybody." -Mark Robinson)
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To: MileHi

Good luck. Loin meat and biscuits with eggs and hash browns next to a campfire will make hunters out of a lot of people.


77 posted on 07/01/2018 9:47:16 PM PDT by Equine1952 (Get yourself a ticket on a common mans train of thought.)
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To: Ransomed
It is not even close to "killing a chicken" level of difficulty. The chicken can not kill you with one blow for one thing.

You have to find the certain animal to be killed. Then, from a distance, you have to fire the shot that will kill just that one and no other.

It is not as hard as hunting lions with a sharp stick but it is more work then people seem to think. Oh and if you do not manage to find the animal in the time allotted you go home empty handed.

It is something like sturgeon fishing on Black Lake if you were only allowed to spear one certain fish.

BTW, shoot the wrong animal or even wound another of the herd and you are in major trouble.

78 posted on 07/01/2018 9:52:54 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear ( Bunnies, bunnies, it must be bunnies!! Or maybe midgets....)
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK
Talk about double standards! No one complained when Spielberg bagged this Triceratops.


79 posted on 07/01/2018 9:54:04 PM PDT by Dalberg-Acton
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK

Giraffe is edible. And her post states meat was obtained from her kill. That is not just trophy hunting.


80 posted on 07/01/2018 9:55:40 PM PDT by lastchance (Credo.)
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