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“Don’t Buy Expensive Defense Guns?” Revisited
The American Rifleman ^ | 06/03/18 | Joe Kurtenbach

Posted on 06/05/2018 10:27:46 AM PDT by Simon Green

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To: E. Pluribus Unum
In 98% of successful defensive gun uses (DGUs), a shot is not fired.

From experience, there is always someone crazier than you are. If your weapon has worked the last 500 times at the range, you,re one unlucky son of a bitch when it fails on the street. Doesn't matter what it is. No worse luck than if one of your cells starts to reproduce uncontrollably.

41 posted on 06/05/2018 2:04:01 PM PDT by Stentor
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To: Fido969
A few years ago Taurus made some terrible little guns, .22 and .25 semi-autos, little pocket guns.

Wow! I've had a Taurus PT-99, based on the Beretta 99 (1911 style safety, 9mm w/ adjustable sights,) since 1988, and it's been an amazingly reliable handgun. I used it for USPSA competition for nearly 3 years, as well as plinking and bowling pin competition. I'm guessing that I've put at least 40,000 rounds through it over the years, and I've only had 2 failures - the first was where the roll pin securing the rear sight came out during a match. While I was shooting, I felt that there was something different, but didn't know what it was. Only after the course of fire did I realize that the rear sight had fallen off the top of the slide!

The second was from me trying to come up with a good 9mm "Pin Load." Using IMI 169gr 9mm FMJBT bullets, I finally found a load that took pins off the table with authority. After about a month of shooting those at weekly pin matches, the slide stayed locked shut after firing a round. Examining what happened, one of the locking lugs sheared off, causing the action to stay locked. I sent the pistol to Taurus and they repaired it, no questions asked. I later learned that the load I had been using was actually considered an SMG round, exceeding +P+ pressures. I was lucky the handgun didn't go grenade on me.

I would trust my life with that Taurus.

Maybe things have changed.

Mark

42 posted on 06/05/2018 2:37:53 PM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: Stentor

I take it you aren’t a big believer in mathematics?


43 posted on 06/05/2018 2:40:34 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (<img src="http://i.imgur.com/WukZwJP.gif" width=600>https://i.imgur.com/zXSEP5Z.gif)
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To: Simon Green

Quality is one thing but when it comes to my daily carry piece I’ll stay away from the gold inlay and unicorn tears.
Forget about the police taking it. What about the other 10,000 days your carrying around your tool. I’ve had mine soaked in rain, soaked with sweat, dropped in a lake and slid down a gravel embankment. All while still attached to me!


44 posted on 06/05/2018 2:44:52 PM PDT by Do_Tar (To my NSA handler: Only kidding.)
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45 posted on 06/05/2018 2:51:04 PM PDT by PLMerite ("They say that we were Cold Warriors. Yes, and a bloody good show, too." - Robert Conquest)
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To: Simon Green

Spend as much as you want, just don’t expect it to remain pretty.


46 posted on 06/05/2018 3:36:17 PM PDT by dangerdoc
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47 posted on 06/05/2018 4:24:44 PM PDT by Chode (You have all of the resources you are going to have. Abandon your illusions and plan accordingly.)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

“I would add powerful enough to stop the attacker immediately.”

No handgun qualifies, then.


48 posted on 06/05/2018 4:27:00 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools)
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To: taxcontrol

That should be in the gun wisdom hall of fame.


49 posted on 06/05/2018 4:27:32 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Simon Green

Hmm...I have a Kimber. Nuff said.

JoMa


50 posted on 06/05/2018 4:32:39 PM PDT by joma89
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To: Lazamataz

Heh heh heh, that was funny!

Ed


51 posted on 06/05/2018 11:08:07 PM PDT by Sir_Ed
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To: MarkL

The P-99 is a fine gun. The PT-22 and 25, not so much.


52 posted on 06/06/2018 8:12:02 AM PDT by Fido969 (In!)
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To: Simon Green

Reliability and stopping power are the only prerequisites I believe in for home defense.

Cheap old Ruger police model .12 gauge works for me. In 50 years I have never had to use it to defend my home so the average cost per year is really cheap.

Anything else is for the ego and pleasure of having something of conspicuous consumption. But if you feel the need for a .44magnum like Dirty Harry or a Barrett .50 for that matter, go for it. No one cares but you.


53 posted on 06/06/2018 9:44:09 AM PDT by wildbill (Quis Custodiet ipsos custodes? Who watches the watchmen?)
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