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Meaning of Firearm Cartridge Designation Number
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Posted on 06/03/2018 9:44:42 PM PDT by txnativegop

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To: txnativegop

225 Win??? That doesn’t come around very often-—


21 posted on 06/04/2018 6:17:49 AM PDT by bantam
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To: txnativegop

pm me if you want to part with it??


22 posted on 06/04/2018 6:18:27 AM PDT by bantam
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To: txnativegop

Some Monday morning trivia (IIRC):

Boxer primers (the easily reloaded) were invented by the British Army Colonel Boxer.

Berdan primers (the not-so-easily reloaded) were invented by US Army Colonel Hiram Berdan.

During the Civil War, Berdan raised a group of sharpshooters, who became snipers. But that’s another story.


23 posted on 06/04/2018 6:27:48 AM PDT by Sam_Damon
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To: Stanwood_Dave

Another little secret: One can neck down 30-06 cases to .270 Winchester.

First time you do that, the case length is a few thousandths of an inch short. But I was using good ol’ Lake City military brass, and shooting in a bolt-action. The brass would stretch to normal .270 Winchester length after one or two uses.

I didn’t worry much about case separation, as military brass is thicker than commercial brass to start.


24 posted on 06/04/2018 6:31:37 AM PDT by Sam_Damon
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To: Equine1952

“Certain old military cases have two small flame holes instead of one.“

Berdan priming. Boxer priming has a single hole. There are special punches made for Berdan. But it’s mostly not worth the trouble. Back in the day I picked up a couple thousand surplus Lake City 5.56 rounds for 12 cents a round. All I wanted was the brass. I hate that stupid green tip bullet.

The primer pockets are indeed very well crimped. But the quality of the brass makes it worth the extra step to clean that up. At least to me it is. So I fired the surplus stuff and reloaded it with a decent soft point bullet.

Best,

L


25 posted on 06/04/2018 6:33:11 AM PDT by Lurker (President Trump isn't our last chance. President Trump is THEIR last chance.)
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To: bantam

Truth.

The .225 Winchester is one of the few “semi-rimmed” cartridges out there.

Winchester in those years (late 1950’s) was trying some crazy stuff. The .284 Winchester is one of the few cartridges with a “rebated rim.”

Weatherby was playing with radiused shoulders. Today the trend seems to be for all new wildcats to have 30 degree shoulders. I suppose eventually we’ll get to caseless and telescoped cartridges.


26 posted on 06/04/2018 6:36:13 AM PDT by Sam_Damon
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To: Sam_Damon

Knew that and he also designed the Berdan I and Berdan II rifles used by Russia in the 1860s/1870s

The Russian made version is known as the Krnka I & II

chambered for the 43 Russian.

FYI


27 posted on 06/04/2018 1:11:12 PM PDT by txnativegop (The political left, Mankinds intellectual hemlock)
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To: bantam

nope it doesn’t

FYI the 226 JDJ handgun cartridge is a fireformed 225 Win.


28 posted on 06/04/2018 1:13:26 PM PDT by txnativegop (The political left, Mankinds intellectual hemlock)
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Did not know he designed rifles for Imperial Russia.

Thanks for posting. Learn something new every day!


29 posted on 06/04/2018 10:47:28 PM PDT by Sam_Damon
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To: Sam_Damon

forgot to mention that Berdan designed them, but Colt built the first few hundred thousand before the Russians acquired the tooling to make the rifles themselves.


30 posted on 06/04/2018 11:44:06 PM PDT by txnativegop (The political left, Mankinds intellectual hemlock)
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To: Sam_Damon
Live & learn. I didn't know that military brass was thicker. But most of what I was shooting in my 03-A3 30-06 was military armor piercing ammo. It was quite cheap back in the day. Thus I was using military brass for my 25-06 & 35 Whelen.

I miss shooting my Whelen, it NEVER FAILED TO BE THE LOUDEST RIFLE, on the shooting line at the gun ranges I use to visit, back in Long Island, New York. Islip shooting range (50 yards only) and Brookhaven shooting range (100 yard.) Between the SOUND and the MUZZLE FLASH, in day light no less, it was quite the rifle.

31 posted on 06/05/2018 12:12:35 AM PDT by Stanwood_Dave ("Testilying." Cop's lie, only while testifying, as taught in their respected Police Academy(s).)
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