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VANITY - Possible Interpretation of Qanon Regarding Sessions, Rosenstein, and Mueller
Self | 05/8/2018 | Self

Posted on 05/08/2018 1:33:20 PM PDT by mbrfl

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To: Fantasywriter

Fyi, TS-SCI is not trivial; I’ve had one twice. Once as Military, once as civillian. But it’s not an all access pass. Which compartments you’ve been approved for is everything.

TS means you passed the extensive anal exam, up to your throat. The SCI takes over—which compartments are you granted access to. Can be few, or (bigwigs) lots.

But even Congressmen with TS-SCI can’t go into 99% of compartments. They get granted here and there, after proving need to know, and some kissing the ring. They are VERY compartmentalized, by comittee and chair. Gowdy has extensive permissions. Schumer even more. Maxine? Uh not so much.

Some DOE guy won’t get far.


61 posted on 05/08/2018 6:16:16 PM PDT by Basket_of_Deplorables (President Trump: Please Fire Sessions!!! You have nothing to lose.)
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To: Enchante

The Lesser Oracle. That’s friken funny, dude. Made me spit out my coffee lol.


62 posted on 05/08/2018 6:19:08 PM PDT by Basket_of_Deplorables (President Trump: Please Fire Sessions!!! You have nothing to lose.)
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To: Fantasywriter

I just have one question for you

If Q is some kid in a basement or trailer park doing harm to Trump’s agenda, why hasn’t Q been shut down?

I will await you considered answer.

Thank Q


63 posted on 05/08/2018 6:59:27 PM PDT by No_Doll_i
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To: bert

The Group Think I see is mostly in the super-secret, pie-in-the-sky Trust Sessions crowd.

Tell Flynn, Manafort, Cohen, Caputo, et al, to stop being impatient children in the back seat of the car - as their savings are squandered on legal defense, and their homes are sold, and their families are terrorized.

Tell Cliven Bundy - whose case was thrown out with prejudice, even as Jeff Sessions categorically eulogized the persecutors masquerading as prosecutors - not to worry about equal justice before the law for all American citizens under Jeff Sessions.

Is Jeff Sessions going to buy back the Flynn house? Are you going to do so?

No, I did not think so.

Jeff Sessions is an Institutionalist, not a Constitutionalist. He may (or may not) want to clean up the Swamp, but only on his terms, not those of the Rule of Law.

He has been a Club Member for many, many years. He knew that Barry Soetoro was ineligible and concealing his history, and knows much about him that the average citizen does not. He could have with literal impunity spoken truths about the man from the Senate Floor - just as Harry Reid spoke lies about Mitt Romney with impunity - but he did not. He and all the rest played along. #TheyAllKnew.

As 1 of 100 senators, he could play gadfly, like Ted Cruz and Rand Paul do, to little effect. Big deal. Not impressed.

There are no White Hats. There are Black Hats and Gray Hats. The closest thing to a White Hat herein is Mike Rogers - and even he went the skulduggery route. None of these people place the Constitution and We The People before their various secretive political machinations.

I have a different definition of Rule of Law and personal integrity than you. If the Founders had done nothing but play so-called 3D Chess, then there would never have been a United States of America.

If Jeff Sessions were the Rule-of-Law stalwart that his sycophants say that he is, he would acknowledge Congressional oversight - period, end of debate. His refusal to do so proves - proves! - that he does not really adhere to rule of law unless it adduces to his particular ends.

Devin Nunes was elected by the People; Jeff Sessions was not. Sessions has no Constitutional right to deflect, delay, deny...

... except in the Rule-of-Skulduggery world of sundance and company.


64 posted on 05/08/2018 7:21:35 PM PDT by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyone's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - J. R. R. Tolkien)
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To: No_Doll_i

First of all, I have never said Q is some kid in a basement. The idea that Q must either be totally legitimate or else a youthful larp is a fallacy. There are multiple options.

Before I get to that, let me clarify that there is no evidence that Trump knows about Q. An oval table with a notepad on it proves nothing. Nor do Trump’s random hand gestures. People see what they want to see.

[Trump doesn’t have time to read 8chan. It’s possible he’s been told that some harmless, anonymous person is supporting MAGA in a cryptic way. That would be a partial truth at best.]

Q was going to provide evidence of a relationship with Trump. Q said Trump would say, ‘tip top,’—a common Trump expression—in the SOTU. Trump didn’t say it. That is significant.

Back to Q’s identity. Consider this. The greater and more serious a threat the Rosenstein/Mueller attempted coup becomes, the more overt Q becomes in shoring up support for Sessions, Wray, Rosenstein and Mueller. I.e.: Q is working hand in glove with the attempted coup, trying to buy the major players enough time to succeed.

That leaves only two options. Q is someone, such as Steve Bannon, who has been close to Trump but who now has an ax to grind, or Q is Deep State. One of the two.


65 posted on 05/08/2018 7:34:49 PM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Fantasywriter

Q, who shills for the Deep State, is doing damage control.
*********I*****************************
Yes, a small interagency Deep State working group tasked with keeping Trump supporters distracted & busy chasing Qisms...sort of like cats kept busy chasing a laser pointer spot.


66 posted on 05/08/2018 7:58:07 PM PDT by House Atreides (BOYCOTT the NFL, its products and players 100% - PERMANENTLY)
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To: House Atreides

Exactly. Q-followers can’t believe it because Q says MAGA and pray. Well Q’s target audience wants to MAGA and prays anyway, so Q loses nothing on that score.

Otoh, as it becomes clearer that Rosenstein and Mueller are trying to destroy Trump and Sessions isn’t lifting a finger to stop them, it’s entirely possible that Sessions would lose most or even all support. So Q props him up and tells Trump’s supporters to sit back and enjoy the show.

The ‘show’ is the Deep State reversing the last election. Q is insidious.


67 posted on 05/08/2018 8:11:22 PM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: YogicCowboy

Terrific post, thank you!


68 posted on 05/08/2018 10:27:27 PM PDT by Enchante ("Don't believe every bit of crap you read on the internet." -- Benjamin Franklin, 1783 --)
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To: Fantasywriter

yeah, you are definitely moving me toward the “sinister” side of Q explanations....


69 posted on 05/08/2018 10:30:15 PM PDT by Enchante ("Don't believe every bit of crap you read on the internet." -- Benjamin Franklin, 1783 --)
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To: Enchante

Well there’s also the fact that Q is a big fat liar. There have been multiple lies but since we’re talking about Q’s identity, let’s focus on that.

You’ve seen my list of the five options for who/what Q is, right? Well the underlying lie Q promotes is that there are only two options. One, he’s this high-level, close-to-Trump, highly knowledgeable insider, or two, he’s some precocious teen, larping from his mother’s basement.

The binary choice scenario is a total, stinking lie. It pretends that the Deep State option doesn’t even exist. Well how bloody convenient is that?? If Q IS Deep State, what could be more self-serving than to persuade his gullible followers that that possibility isn’t even an option?

I’m referring to the time that something happened to the 8chan site, some DOS attack or something. Q convinced his acolytes that the sinister forces of evil were trying to silence/interfere with his “comms.” Then he said, “All this for a LARP?”

And of course the Qers responded, ‘Shazam! This proves Q!’

Yeah right; Q lying like a rug proves Q is honorable and trustworthy. ::eyeroll::

I suppose an actual larper would tell the same lies. Such lies would be equally self-serving.

What persuades me most strongly against the larp theory is the keen focus with which Q has maintained his, TRUST SESSIONS, trust Wray, trust the plan, mantra. As of May 7, Q added Rosenstein and Mueller to the white hat list, as a counterbalance to Trump’s increasingly scathing criticisms of their witch hunt. (Way to undercut the POTUS, ‘Q.’)

No benign entity wants Trump’s supporters to trust Mueller. That would be insane. If Mueller succeeds Trump will be destroyed. It really is that simple.


70 posted on 05/09/2018 4:37:50 AM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Fantasywriter

Excellent!!


71 posted on 05/09/2018 5:24:41 AM PDT by Enchante ("Don't believe every bit of crap you read on the internet." -- Benjamin Franklin, 1783 --)
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To: mbrfl

Any thoughts? Yes.

Sessions IS weak, or he would have dropped the act as soon as he was approved.

Sessions is a slow moving career bureaucrat who is having a hard time separating himself from the swamp. That is the sad fact. Sessions deserved a rich reward for being the first mainstream Republican to support then candidate Trump, and was instrumental in getting him elected. He deserved a good Cabinet position.

But once he recused himself, he screwed Trump completely. At that point, he became a severe liability and Trump needed to fire him or get him to resign for cause — he can’t fulfill his duties and it is killing Trump to have Rosenstein running DOJ for everything campaign related.

Sessions has been a disaster. He is a good guy and an honorable man, but he plays way too nice at a time when Trump needs a berserk street fighter running DOJ.

Trump still needs to fire Sessions immediately. There is no way Sessions just played weak to get the nomination, but is hiding a pit bull mentality against the swamp. No, there is no evidence for that. That is purely wishful thinking.


72 posted on 05/09/2018 5:31:12 AM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (End the Mueller Gestapo now.)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

That is good analysis. Sessions is in way over his head. He doesn’t look weak as a brilliant form of kabuki to put bad actors off guard/give them a false sense of security; he looks weak because he is weak. His betrayal of Trump has been complete, and may yet have cost Trump the presidency. It remains to be seen.


73 posted on 05/09/2018 5:37:42 AM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Fantasywriter

I was really disappointed when Rudy Giuliani turned Trump down for AG. Rudy was his first choice. Now Rudy says he regrets turning down the AG post. Such a shame. I really think Rudy was the right guy for that job at this time. He is a brilliant communicator and is willing to push back. Sessions never pushes back. He only works within the system, and that is too slow and ineffective for the coup attempt currently taking place. Trump will be out of office before Sessions gets done trying to get to the bottom of the coup attempt.


74 posted on 05/09/2018 5:42:24 AM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (End the Mueller Gestapo now.)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

Agree! Giuliani would have been great.

It is far worse with Sessions than just not pushing back. He is in bed with Rosenstein, one of the two central players in the Deep State’s attempted coup. Trump’s AG should not be bff with one of Trump’s two most dangerous enemies.

On the very day it was revealed that Rosenstein signed one of the illegal FISA warrant renewals, Sessions got in front of a mic and practically drooled on RR. Jeff’s praise was far too effusive, and the timing knee-capped any anti-witch hunt momentum Trump might have gotten out of the Rosenstein-FISA revelation. It was vile.

While Sessions sides with Trump’s enemies, Joe DiGenova is trying to fill in for the job Sessions *should* be doing:

DiGenova on Hannity:

“Comey is dirty, Rosentein is compromised. Jeff Sessions has a duty to fire Rosenstein NOW... It’s HIS job, not Trump’s.”


75 posted on 05/09/2018 6:06:03 AM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Fantasywriter

Were it so then Sessions would be gone already.


76 posted on 05/09/2018 6:17:58 AM PDT by arthurus (fd)
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To: arthurus

Trump expressed his disappointment in the Justice Department during a Fox News interview in which he said Comey is “guilty of crimes” that could be uncovered “if we had a Justice Department that was doing their job.

When asked why he doesn’t push the department to do more, Trump say he’s staying out for now.

“Because of the fact that they have this witch hunt going on with people in the Justice Department that shouldn’t be there, they have a witch hunt against the president of the United States going on, I’ve taken the position, and I don’t have to take this position and maybe I’ll change, that I will not be involved with the Justice Department,” he said. “I will wait until this is over. It’s a total, it’s all lies and it’s a horrible thing that is going on, a horrible thing.”

Trump has repeatedly lashed out at Attorney General Jeff Sessions, who heads the department, for recusing himself from the Russia investigation. Trump has previously called on the department to target leakers, but no one has been prosecuted for leaks critical of the Trump administration.

“So very disappointed in my Justice Department,” Trump said. “Because of the fact it is going on, and I think you will understand this, I have decided I won’t be involved. I may change my mind at some point because what is going on is a disgrace. It is an absolute disgrace. By the way only collusion is with Democrats and Russians.”

http://truthfeednews.com/happening-now-trump-announces-his-next-move-in-russia-investigation/


77 posted on 05/09/2018 6:21:52 AM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: arthurus

None of us can get to the truth by thinking one-dimensionally. If there were no other factors in the world than simply the issue of whether Trump is satisfied with Sessions or furious with him, then your statement would be true. But there are hundreds of other factors involved.

Let’s take just one. Right now, as I type, Deep State dirty cop Trump-hater Mueller is investigating Trump for ***thinking*** about firing Sessions.

Please read it a second time. Mueller, whose goal is to destroy Trump’s presidency—and who has the backing of nearly every power player in DC and the press—is investigating Trump for obstruction of justice for THINKING about firing Sessions.

Mueller-the-shark is circling. Trump’s thoughts, or supposed thoughts, are a drop of blood in the water. Some imagine Trump could slice open a big gash and the sharks would do nothing.

After all, firing the AG worked so well for Nixon, right?


78 posted on 05/09/2018 6:35:46 AM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: arthurus

Clarification. I should have said that firing the AG worked so well for Nixon *in the midst of a huge, presidency-crippling investigation.* That is the Catch-22 Sessions put Trump in. Mueller is indefinite job security for Jeff. With the Nixon precedent first and foremost in their minds, the Deep State prays daily that Trump will fire Sessions or Rosenstein or Mueller. They have the playbook open to Watergate/impeachment/removal. They want Trump GONE. They have set the trap. It remains only for Trump to step into it.

So far Trump has thwarted the Deep State’s machinations. Let us pray he continues to do so.


79 posted on 05/09/2018 6:46:08 AM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Fantasywriter; Enchante; bagster

I see you two trolls found a new Q thread to pollute..

so pathetic.


80 posted on 05/09/2018 11:18:22 AM PDT by edzo4 (Enchante to Bagster: Well I truly would be thrilled if all/most of the Q stuff turns out to be real")
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