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To: PIF

I a really stupid move, the Air Force destroyed the tooling used to create the F-22 in order to deliberately make it uneconomical to build more.


4 posted on 05/05/2018 3:10:56 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: Vince Ferrer

From Wiki.

“In 2010, USAF initiated a study to determine the costs of retaining F-22 tooling for a future Service Life Extension Program (SLEP).[68] A RAND Corporation paper from this study estimated that restarting production and building an additional 75 F-22s would cost $17 billion, resulting in $227 million per aircraft, or $54 million higher than the flyaway cost.[69] Lockheed Martin stated that restarting the production line itself would cost about $200 million.[70] Production tooling will be documented in illustrated electronic manuals stored at the Sierra Army Depot.[71] Retained tooling will produce additional components; due to the limited production run there are no reserve aircraft, leading to considerable care during maintenance.[72] Later attempts to retrieve this tooling found that the containers were empty.[73]”

If you believe the report in the last sentence. Likely hidden and secret from certain politicos. You don’t lose the tooling for the F-22 Raptor in a secure location like the Sierra Army Depot.


10 posted on 05/05/2018 3:20:54 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Vince Ferrer

Every person responsible for the tooling destruction should be canned from their gov. job.


11 posted on 05/05/2018 3:26:58 PM PDT by Rebelbase (YETI deathwatch, tick, tick, tick......)
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To: Vince Ferrer
Actually the tooling, prints and so forth were saved - but as the article says:

"Total non-recurring start-up costs over a five year period totaling $9.869 billion in 2016 dollars, equal to more than $10 billion in 2018 dollars at the time of writing.

"This included approximately $228 million to refurbish production tooling, $1.218 billion to requalify sources of components and raw materials, $5.768 billion to redesign four subsystems, and $1.156 billion in other associated “restart costs,” along with $1.498 billion in “additional government costs.”"

Please read the article. It concludes:
"But judging by the report itself, which underlines over and over again that any dollars put toward F-22s could be taken from the F-35 program - both in terms of foreign and domestic procurement - this is unlikely to occur."

19 posted on 05/05/2018 3:41:23 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: Vince Ferrer
"the Air Force destroyed the tooling used to create the F-22 in order to deliberately make it uneconomical to build more"

After production is complete shouldn't the military hold the tooling?

49 posted on 05/06/2018 12:00:13 AM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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