Posted on 04/22/2018 6:13:57 AM PDT by sodpoodle
To deep archives, perhaps. Privately owned players and storage is likely to bite the dust. Collections will have to be restarted. Books will be unscathed.
“That doesn’t happen to books unless caused by something outside the book. Magnetic or static charge media dissipates in time, all by itself. Physical devices become obsolete, and eventually there are no machines left that will read them.”
Perhaps you should toss your computer and be done with it ..
“Privately owned players and storage is likely to bite the dust. “
No, it won’t. EMP is overhyped Internet nerd porn, that’s all.
I’ll take the rational and intelligent approach: I’ll use my computer as I see fit and accumulate printed material as I desire. I’ll let the arrogant newbies fend for themselves.
” Electronic medias lifetime is at the mercy of the marketing people and the transient nature of the media itself. To keep anything a long time one must transfer content from media to media, forever and often.”
My personal files from the early 80’s are essentially the same media as I use today. That was almost 40 years ago! So your statement is wrong.
“Ill use my computer as I see fit “
I hope you are printing out all your computer files as one speck of dust could wipe them all out.
hmmm. Better start archiving all FR posts to paper also?
You continue to use 8” or 5-1/4 floppies? Eight inch Winchester disks? USB thumb drives and CD-ROMS didn’t exist then. Perhaps you use arrays of 1702 UV EPROMS?
” Books will be unscathed.”
Perhaps you have not heard of the major programs to archive books to digital media before they fall apart and cannot be saved.
No, I keep my hard drives closed and USB drives aren't affected much by dust. I do have storage units for media that are designed to extend the life of media.
Just why do you maintain your line of "conversation". My original point was merely that some printed books are not available on electronic media, and those books contain useful material not found elsewhere. Everything you are arguing is entirely irrelevant to that point.
“You continue to use 8 or 5-1/4 floppies? Eight inch Winchester disks? USB thumb drives and CD-ROMS didnt exist then. “
Dude, PC’s had 3.5” hard drives in the 80’s.
But, if digital only floats your boat, enjoy that little boat of yours.
EOT
“Just why do you maintain your line of “conversation”. My original point was merely that some printed books are not available on electronic media, and those books contain useful material not found elsewhere. “
And my response was that there are things on electronic media that one can access easily that would take ten lifetimes to find in a book.
Then you went off on a tangent about how books were more reliable than electronic media since electronic media may self-destruct any moment so one should never keep electronic records.
Sonny, my debut into the computer world occurred in 1967. I’m still current.
You are picking nits to no useful purpose. On the other hand, locating certain books that are in print only can be of significant purpose. You can't see the forest because of the trees.
” I am also absolutely sure that scanned books will not always preserve the quality of a book’s content. Have you ever seen first generation books of photographs of Gemini/Apollo orbital operations or those taken on the moon? Scanned images do not come even close to the quality of that material. Most scanned books are of terrible quality compared to the books themselves.”
Dude, good scanning equipment provides resolutions finer than the best printers. I scanned all my family photos at resolutions better than the original prints.
Not only that, but software has the ability to make the scanned images BETTER than the originals!
Same with LP’s. Just finished digitizing a bunch of records from the 50’s and 60’s. Software really cleaned up the clicks.
“Things that are not on electronic media cannot be viewed on a computer. That means that there is information that cannot ever be found using a computer search, but can be found in books.”
If you can find the book and get access to it.
“Sonny, my debut into the computer world occurred in 1967. Im still current”
Mine came in 1965, sonny.
“But, if digital only floats your boat, enjoy that little boat of yours.”
I never said that. My Audio Monitors provide very fine analog.
Are you assuming that I have never made use of a search engine or found useful material online? All I am pointing out is that the entirety of human knowledge IS NOT available on line. Youngsters tend to overlook printed material, and lose out on that content.
Well then, as one ancient fart to another, which was your favorite computer? I cut my teeth on the IBM 1130, then the 360. Soon I developed a love for the PDP-11 and then the 68000. I am still kicking myself in the butt for throwing out my Multibus 68000 computer.
I just acquired some gunsmith books and some machining texts that are not available online. They are wonderful, far better than any similar material I have found online. Online material seems to be lacking in detail and not very eloquently written. The older farts wrote better than people of today.
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