Posted on 03/08/2018 7:33:06 AM PST by Steely Tom
But President Trump wants to get rid of them, and currently doing so.
Illegal drugs, I agree, we have people who make big money who are connected to the government to keep the drug trade going.
But elimination 300+ million guns will not be easy. Even if they did, I bet 100 thousand new guns, would be made the next day to replace them. Criminals don’t care and anything can be bought on the black market.
And these criminals with guns will wield even more power, since law abiding citizens would be guaranteed to be disarmed.
I agree with everything everyone has said, I got a lot responses and I won’t be able to reply to everyone. I was more looking at this as an logistics issue.
Leftists ... absolutely. They can’t install their utopian dictator and load those opposed to them into cattle cars and “FEMA” camps while there are armed American citizens
running around
I take it as an award to my intellect that I was expelled.
“we will probably have a large number of them on our side”
I wouldn’t count on that one. The first loyalty is not to protect the constitution from enemies, foreign and domestic, but to themselves.
While it is a good thing to have “your brother’s back”, it’s not a good thing to have that supersede the oath, nevertheless, that’s how it works out to be.
No matter how sympathetic to a cause, once someone on the other side takes out a friend, watch how fast their opinion changes to full-on support of the one in power.
It’s nice to imagine that many will just lay down arms and say “I’m not doing this”, but I really don’t think that’ll happen.
How many walked away from Ruby Ridge or Waco? - zero.
The thing to remember is that gun confiscation is not the end gosl, it is a necessary step to the end goal. Obviously they know that if the people were armed, they would fight their agenda to the death.
The deep state is not just corrupt, it intends our demise.
Partial lists of ‘the dead’ stupid enough to give up their guns...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Black_Book_of_Communism
65 million in the People’s Republic of China
20 million in the Soviet Union
2 million in Cambodia
2 million in North Korea
1.7 million in Ethiopia
1.5 million in Afghanistan
1 million in the Eastern Bloc
1 million in Vietnam
150,000 in Latin America
10,000 deaths “resulting from actions of the international Communist movement and Communist parties not in power.”[4]:4
Courtois writes that Communist regimes are responsible for a greater number of deaths than any other political ideal or movement, including Nazism.
Since we no longer live in a nation of (thank you Mr, Sessions) LAW we are not merely a generation away but one election away from losing our guns.
I think the two are related: the massive importation of non-US people, combined with non-enforcement of immigration law is an attempt to destroy US culture: things like acceptance of guns, the distrust/leeriness of authority (this is the reason for the Bill of Rights and the restrictions it places on federal government), Constitutionalism, and the idea that the government should not be corrupt — just look at the amount of peoples from countries where corruption is not only common but expected! Just look at how nationalistic pride
is so despised!
I think Mao was absolutely right when he said political power comes from the barrel of a gun
— George Washington and the rest of the founders proved that — and [IMO] it is because of this that the ruling elite are desperate to disarm the general public. (Heck, there's quotes of politicians pretty much saying if they knew what we were doing, they'd hang us.
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Your observations are germane. They are well-reasoned and expressed. Thanks.
I would bet much sooner, if all the benefits were cut off without warning & with no extensions for any reason.
But a bounty on every illegal 10 days after cutting off benefits. Watch how fast they can exit southward bound. Maybe we could even run some special trains they can ride on top of, like they arrived here.
They CAN control ammunition. Would be a short lived rebellion
Solzhenitsyn made a similar point, though, he put more emphasis on the lack of will to resist and the lack of awareness of what was coming. Having guns will not help people if they are not ready to use them when they come to take them. Whether enough people will resist is still up in the air. Australians just showed that they won’t.
“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?... The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin’s thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn’t love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.”
Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, The Gulag Archipelago 1918-1956
bkmk
Some politicians have just come right out and said..they needed to take them over...for the good of the country...BS
Not unlike some moron politicians saying..the GUBMENT needed to take over the energy companies..
“already know who the ‘resisters’ will be and they’ll have them easily outgunned.”
And yes, it’s hard to win. BUT it’s easy to make it a day they remember bitterly with much loss.
"...people need to think VERY HARD before agreeing to any restrictions on guns..."
The answer is yes, and per chance I’m wrong, I’m not taking the chance they would....
Molon labon
You might argue that it’s a question of “how bad do they want them.” I would point to the vast number of people in this country who illegally don’t pay taxes, and still get way with it, no matter how bad the government wants money. It would take a seriously organized movement by the government to grab all the guns. If it was too hard to get them, they wouldn’t waste their time. Although, I don’t understand what made Britons and Aussies just roll over and give them up. I live in Texas, and personally know many law enforcement officers. I’ve flat out asked them what would happen if federal law required gun confiscation. Their immediate response was effectively: “See any feds around here?”
I don’t know. I just don’t know.
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