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Trump, citing ‘evil massacre’ in Florida, starts talking about gun control
Washington Post ^ | February 20, 2018 | Jenna Johnson, Mark Berman, Josh Dawsey

Posted on 02/20/2018 8:42:56 PM PST by Pinkbell

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To: wastoute

Exactly. Insanely efficient at hounding freedom lovers, but make the keystone kops look like members of the Manhattan project when a lefttard or a muslim or SSRI prescribee talks hate and death, posts it and plans a spree...


121 posted on 02/21/2018 1:09:07 AM PST by Axenolith (Government blows, and that which governs least, blows least...)
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To: wastoute

20 years ago, yea, maybe, but now the camels nose isn’t under the tent, he’s in there with those folks braying and slobbering and about to mount them!


122 posted on 02/21/2018 1:11:29 AM PST by Axenolith (Government blows, and that which governs least, blows least...)
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To: caww
"Obvious the kid was troubled......but being troubled doesn’t make a killer out of kids.... most teens have troubles. Some more than others."

Thank you for illustrating the point made in the quotation in comment #106.


123 posted on 02/21/2018 1:20:08 AM PST by familyop (President Trump said that we're all important, so let's do something!)
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To: Pinkbell

I say anyone who pays for their own health insurance should be able to carry.


124 posted on 02/21/2018 3:49:09 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: Pinkbell

Too funny - the WaaaaaaPo has dreams of Trump turning on his base in a big way - ain’t gonna happen the way they dream about....


125 posted on 02/21/2018 4:05:36 AM PST by trebb (I stopped picking on the mentally ill hypocrites who pose as conservatives...mostly ;-})
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To: Pinkbell

100 rounds in 7 seconds? That doesnt seem right.


126 posted on 02/21/2018 4:21:46 AM PST by MrRelevant
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To: Nationale7
It’s that it’s not true

Here's how it works:

1. Federal agency wants more power.
2. Federal agency fails to exercise its existing power to prevent evil, and evil happens.
3. Federal agency, and its cronies, demand more power to prevent evil from happening again.
4. People are swayed to the federal agency's argument, and give said agency more power.
5. Federal agency is still hungry for power, go back to step #1.

The people truly in charge of this country, i.e. the media and academic and non-political government elites, and the now fully socialist Democrat Party, want to eliminate conservatives and practicing Christians in particular, using any means necessary--hopefully soft means but if push comes to shove, well, they are angry.

There are two motivations for this: 1) to gain the support of people around the globe who are poorer than us and envy us (i.e., the vast majority of humanity), which support will help them establish a popular global government, and 2) the radical atheistic spirit that has been manifest in humanity in various forms since the dawn of time. They are genocidal in their ideology, and also in their practice (abortion, euthanasia, etc.)

127 posted on 02/21/2018 4:42:07 AM PST by cmj328 (We live here.)
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To: caww

All military service, whether at 18 or 40 is voluntary unless there is a draft.

But 18 year olds are required to register for selective service so they can be drafted in time of war and are part of the unorganized militia per federal law.

The second amendment isn’t about hunting. It’s about an individual fundamental right to bear arms. So hunting is rather irrelevant. But you asked what the “need” was for a semi-automatic weapon. I pointed out that they are commonly used for hunting.

For many teens the first firearm that you learn to shoot with is a semi-automatic .22.

It’s pretty obvious from your posting that you are a woman and have some involvement with the school system. It’s also pretty obvious to me that you have very little understanding of firearms and the 2nd Amendment.

Teens used to routinely carry weapons to school in years past for lawful purposes. Many schools had rifle teams. The guns can’t do anything without human control.

I’m not sure why you think raising the age to 21 to buy a semi automatic rifle will have any effect on school shootings. Most school shootings involved students who were younger than 18 who didn’t go to a dealer and buy the weapons they used. They either stole them or otherwise acquired them, Usually violating existing laws when doing so.

The fact is, if you look beyond your female emotions for a minute, that the semiautomatic rifle cannot do anything without a human hand to guide it. The shooter in Florida broken dozens of laws doing what he did. The law cannot magically fix a problem with human nature, which is debased by public schools and teachers to begin with.


128 posted on 02/21/2018 5:00:28 AM PST by TexasGurl24
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To: precisionshootist
if we are a nation of laws

I think I see the flaw in your logic.

129 posted on 02/21/2018 5:25:13 AM PST by Hardastarboard (Three most annoying words on the internet - "Watch the Video")
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To: caww
In 1776 we didn’t have semi-automatic weapons in the hands of kids going into schools shooting other kids.

This thread turned you into a NASCAR driver...left turn, left turn, left turn.

130 posted on 02/21/2018 5:44:44 AM PST by BlackbirdSST (Kate's Wall, build it!)
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To: Hardastarboard
" if we are a nation of laws I think I see the flaw in your logic. "

Ya that's a big if isn't it?

I'm going to be writing a vanity post on this tomorrow. I love and support our President but that support is not unconditional. What has taken place with this announcement is an outrage that should concern every American. More to come from me on this subject tomorrow.

131 posted on 02/21/2018 6:02:23 AM PST by precisionshootist
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To: rktman

Florida House...along party lines. The vote was to not discuss the issue. There is a sidebar up on it.


132 posted on 02/21/2018 6:41:32 AM PST by Mouton (The MSM is a clear and present danger to the republic.)
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To: Mouton

Thanks.


133 posted on 02/21/2018 6:43:04 AM PST by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: TexasGurl24

Possibly caww(?) was blinded by some errant “toxic masculinity” being released in the general vicinity.


134 posted on 02/21/2018 6:46:41 AM PST by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: Pinkbell

How about repealing all federal gun control laws, since they have worked sooooo well in preventing this kind of crap.

Let each state determine how to stop the actual crazies without rendering the sane people defenseless.


135 posted on 02/21/2018 6:48:39 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (The US Constitution ....... Invented by geniuses and God .... Administered by morons ......)
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To: Pinkbell
Agreed. I don’t care about the bump stocks at all. What do you think of raising the age from 18 to 21, though?

I think it's bull excrement. There should be one age of majority. Buy a house, vote, sign up for the military, drink alcohol, smoke, buy a firearm, one age. If 18 is old enough to be drafted in wartime, then 18 is old enough to be a complete adult with all rights and all responsibilities.

136 posted on 02/21/2018 6:49:19 AM PST by IYAS9YAS (There are two kinds of people: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data.)
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To: Vince Ferrer

It’s the skrewel systems that put boys onto these drugs, to keep them pacified. Obviously not working in some cases.


137 posted on 02/21/2018 6:50:00 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (The US Constitution ....... Invented by geniuses and God .... Administered by morons ......)
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To: IYAS9YAS

I personally think that the voting age should be raised to 25, which is the average age at which the human brain is finally fully developed. There probably should also be a maximum voting age, say around 80. Half of people aged 85 suffer from some sort of dementia.

As for purchasing a semi-auto, having a drink on your own or getting married, 16 sounds good to me.


138 posted on 02/21/2018 6:56:13 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (The US Constitution ....... Invented by geniuses and God .... Administered by morons ......)
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To: caww

In 1976 there were plenty of semi-automatic weapons in the hands of kids and we didn’t have them going into schools and shooting other kids. Your argument is weak.


139 posted on 02/21/2018 7:35:39 AM PST by Kickaha (See the glory...of the royal scam)
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To: caww

“Sheesh!”

I’m just trying to explore your thinking, I didn’t mean to hit a nerve.

From your words and various posts I take it that you are not a “Shall not be infringed” kind of person. So what’s your thinking? I doubt your thinking is that “the right of the people” does not apply to those under a certain age because they are not people. Yet you think that “the right of the people” does not apply to those people. Why?

Do you think that “The right of the people to keep and bear arms” has boundaries like “the right of the people to vote” and that laws regarding things outside those boundaries are not infringements? If so, what, where and why are those boundaries?

The boundaries on “the right of the people to vote” are clear, at least some of them. One has to be a resident of the district in which a public vote takes place. One has to be a member of the organization in which a private vote takes place. And it seems to me the reasons for those boundaries are self evident.

Your thoughts?


140 posted on 02/21/2018 7:45:23 AM PST by KrisKrinkle (Blessed be those who know the depth and breadth of their ignorance. Cursed be those who don't.)
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