Posted on 01/20/2018 1:03:00 PM PST by WilliamIII
Ann Coulter says it's unconstitutional to require supermajority for budget. Is she right?
Make the lazy ‘Rats actually perform a real filibuster.
They are following a stupid congressional “rule” which would be easy to change. But I think it’s a stretch to call it unconstitutional.
Amen!
If children could die from a federal shutdown, why would McConnell stick with a 60 vote requirement?
The senate can make its own rules. At least they think they can.
Because McConnell doesn’t even have 51 GOP votes.
If a shutdown denies resources for our troops, why would McConnell stick with a 60 vote requirement?
He doesn’t. He is scum incorporated.
He only needs a majority to pass a budget. He needs 60 votes to end the filibuster.
If a shutdown risks tanking the markets and peoples retirement accounts, why would McConnell stick with a 60 vote requirement?
“Because McConnell doesn’t even have 51 GOP votes.”
Excellent point - with Flake and some others siding with Dems, we still wouldn’t have the votes.
And this is playing MUCH BETTER than if the Republicans simply muscled-through a budget. We’re letting the Democrats reveal themselves on Amnesty - I suspect that a LOT of Americans are now finding out just who the Dems are and what their priorities are, as they are normally really good at hiding it.
1) The shutdown doesn’t really hurt anyone.
2) It’s good political theater to say “Look what the Democrats are doing!” (even though some Republicans also support illegal aliens over US citizens.)
I would bring back to real filibuster.
If you want to block a bill you must stand up and take the Senate floor and keep talking to prevent a vote where majority wins.
This 60 votes for every bill in lieu of a real filibuster is CACA.
Perhaps not, Alberta’s Child. But, if the rules were changed to only require majority vote, there may be a few dhimmicraps ready to vote ‘yes’, especially if they may have a tough reelection fight upcoming. They would have a better argument with constituents if they could say they did not vote against security and children’s health insurance.
By letting Dems block a budget, is McConnell’s real game to pressure Trump on DACA and open borders?
Rules of the Senate. He couldn't get a majority to vote to end the filibuster if he even wanted to try.
Constitution declares that each house (Senate, House) make their own rules.
The Senate, which is supposed to be the ‘cooling saucer’ to slow legislation down, has rules that prevent the majority from overwhelming the minority.
For many years from the beginning - a filibuster required ‘holding the Senate by continuing to talk.’ Around 1940’s/1950’s - Senate changed the rule to no longer require ‘holding the floor by continuing to talk’ - and to stop ‘debate’ and allow the issue to proceed to vote - it requires 60 votes to end debate.
If the 60 vote threshold is eliminated - the next time we see the House, Senate and Presidency controlled by Democrats - we will get ‘rolled’ even worse than ever.
The REAL problem is the 1974 Budget Reconciliation Act that changed the way budgets are passed....and yet - Congress DOES NOT follow the rules.
Legally (but there is no punishment for violation) - the Budget should be passed before the start of the new fiscal year (October 01). AND -the budget is actually a series of budget laws for each department. It was not the intent to pass a single budget with all departments in one jammed up omnibus spending - but that is how it is done as a ‘let’s lard up the social spending in some departments and put it with essential military spending’ - and dare the Republicans to veto/block needed military spending.
HERE IS WHAT WE NEED...a new law:
“If a new fiscal year starts without a budget in place - each department will be allowed to continue operation at 90% of the prior year’s appropriation, and will continue until a new budget is passed OR until the end of the fiscal year.”
This way - instead of Democrats saying - government shutdown or give us bloated spending...it would be the Republicans allowing the budget to be blocked - and we get a 10% cut. Sounds like a winner.
Reference or link?
“...And this is playing MUCH BETTER than if the Republicans simply muscled-through a budget. We’re letting the Democrats reveal themselves on Amnesty - I suspect that a LOT of Americans are now finding out just who the Dems are and what their priorities are, as they are normally really good at hiding it....”
This is playing out great....almost makes one think it was planned out that way. Maybe Trump had it planned way in advance. He’s light-years ahead in his thinking than most slimy congress critters, especially insane commie RATs.
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