Fear of ICE among reasons century-old Detroit church closing

Associated Press ^ | Dec 30, 2017 4:48 PM EST

[WayneS]

Doesn't the Catholic Church teach that lying, stealing and coveting are sins?

I think the new pope made them stop teaching such judgmental stuff...

[Mastador1]

Most of those denominations don't have services in Spanish. They expect that the people attending speak English.

Ah ha ahahahahahahahah, I guess it's safe to say you have never been in California and I would imagine it's the same in Texas, Arizona, New Mexico, Nevada and a continually expanding market.

How interesting that you feel no religion other than Catholicism would have services in Spanish, or Korean, or Vietnamese, only English. So apparently if the person desiring to be a congregant in the churches of those other religions don't speak English they need to find God elsewhere, I would say that was quite telling!

[ConservaTeen]

Oh, I thought they had Pagophobia or Cryophobia (both meaning the fear of ice and cold). I’m not sure what ‘The Fear of ICE Agents’ is called.

[Lurkinanloomin]

Deport, deport, deport and then deport some more.
It’s going to take a long time, the more we do the better we’ll get at it.

[2nd amendment mama]

So apparently if the person desiring to be a congregant in the churches of those other religions don't speak English they need to find God elsewhere, I would say that was quite telling!

Why is that telling? This is the USA - we speak English. What's the problem? How many languages would you say that our small church be required to provide to people?

[Toughluck_freeper]

What do illegals have anything to do with the Church only being able to attract three worshippers?

They should pay attention instead to why they are losing membership

[Mastador1]

There are small churches here in California that I know of that give services in three languages, four if count the Catholic mass in Latin. So I expect and see that churches provide services in as many languages as need to in order to tend to their flock. Yes this is the USA, but we have always had non English speaking residents, the difference now is that the liberals have made it so that America is divided by class, race and language. Is there some reason that you feel it is un-American for churches to minister to members of their flock in the language they are most comfortable in? That is how you come across, and that is what I find quite telling.

I guess you would be insulted that my parents when they immigrated to America went to a church that provided services and ministry to the large Hungarian population in the area in Hungarian as well as English services, they now provide services in English, Hungarian, Spanish and Vietnamese. How very un- American in a country where we speak English, eh?

You know I think I'm all through responding to you, try and have a Happy New Year.

[trebb]

More likely closing because the “tithes” aren’t enough to support it - the Church hates to spend its own riches on that religion stuff....

[2nd amendment mama]

I guess you would be insulted that my parents when they immigrated to America went to a church that provided services and ministry to the large Hungarian population in the area in Hungarian as well as English services, they now provide services in English, Hungarian, Spanish and Vietnamese

My grandparents immigrated to America from Poland and the Ukraine. Rather than expecting everyone to accommodate their native language they learned English. What ever happened to that concept? I'm not against churches offering services in other languages if it's main population speaks in a different language and the church was started to support them. However, you sound like you expect every church to offer multi-lingual services multiple times during the day. My church has one service on Sunday. Since most of the parishioners native language is English, that's what is spoken in the service. Oh, and you have a Happy New Year too.

[Ace's Dad]

I stand by what I Observed; of course, the PCA is involved. What's going on in the local churches is one reason there is a "Reform" movement.

[Ace's Dad]

I stand by what I Observed; of course, the PCA is involved. What's going on in the local churches is one reason there is a "Reform" movement.

[Wyrd bið ful aræd]

Yes, but do PCA churches owe and/or donate a certain amount of cash to the PCA, which is then used to smuggle in illegals via "resettlement"?

In my (Catholic) archdiocese, the chancery takes 20% right off the top of every collection. Collection to fix the A/C in the church? 20% off the top. My cardinal is one of the most openly leftist in the country and has flown to the southern border for photo-ops with Mexicans and border-jumpers on numerous occasions. So I know if I put money in the basket (which I don't anymore, but I might again this year because I feel guilty not supporting my parish), I'm buying a plane ticket to Arizona for a photo-op with illegals.

[Ace's Dad]

do PCA churches owe and/or donate a certain amount of cash to the PCA?

Of course you know the answer to that rhetorical question!

Some, including one of my daughters, ignore that, only because of their connection to a particular local church. The rest of her neighborhood church life has no other "liberal" connections, such as gay marriage or scriptural conflicts.

In conservative Grand Rapids, one has to make distinctions, hard choices! Just my very narrow observations, from once a month visits to her church.